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The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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TL;DR: producers store juice in oxygen-less tanks, for up to one year, then add natural/synthetic chemicals, to restore taste, prior to distribution. The author suggests people make their own juice, instead.

I'm really starting to wonder what the point of juice even is. If you want fruit, eat fruit. If you want a drink, drink some water. Why combine the two? Fruit juice seems like basically a way to drink soda but with the delusion that it's good for you.

What's wrong with smoothies? Blended fruit gives you all the fiber in the pulp and it's super convenient to consume.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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This is one of the little things that make me happy about the Netherlands: the local market chains sell lots of minimally industrialized products. Orange juice tastes fresh and will spoil in a couple of days. If you still don't trust it, there are machines where you can choose fruit and squeeze your own juice. And it's usually cheaper than the big-brand alternatives.

I've heard many times that ordering a freshly squeezed juice from those machines is not so safe, they need to clean them pretty often to prevent E. coli and other dangerous pathogens from spreading, and since the machines that are squeezing this juice are not kept in refrigirator while operating - spreading this pathogens becomes an easy task

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Not since I came to understand what fruit juice actually is. If I want health I'll eat the actual fruit, and if I want a tasty-but-unhealthy drink I just drink soda. Sure, the stuff tastes OK, but not as good as the fruit it comes from.

That's the thing, I love fresh orange juice. It tastes great. I do not really like Orange juice and I absolutely loath soda (it tastes awful). So I drink Orange Juice (and Apple Juice) because it tastes great.

Better than the actual orange?

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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When consumers buy juice labelled "natural" or "100% juice" they expect juice that hasn't had anything added or taken away from it, especially not something that doesn't actually exist in nature. The article was written to inform consumers about what they're actually getting and how they're getting deceived.

"Natural" has pretty much 0 value as a label. What is natural and not natural would vary depending on which person you ask the question on the street... This is just marketing.

There is a line past which an overwhelming majority of people would reasonably object to a "natural" or "100% juice" label on orange juice, in the same way that pure ethylvanillin could not reasonably be labeled 100% natural vanilla.

It seems clear to me that the label has some value, it's just a matter of placing the line.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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This is one of the little things that make me happy about the Netherlands: the local market chains sell lots of minimally industrialized products. Orange juice tastes fresh and will spoil in a couple of days. If you still don't trust it, there are machines where you can choose fruit and squeeze your own juice. And it's usually cheaper than the big-brand alternatives.

I've heard many times that ordering a freshly squeezed juice from those machines is not so safe, they need to clean them pretty often to prevent E. coli and other dangerous pathogens from spreading, and since the machines that are squeezing this juice are not kept in refrigirator while operating - spreading this pathogens becomes an easy task

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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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> which also has value. No it (i.e. orange juice) doesn't have meaningful value. It's like soda minus the bubbles. Edit: 8oz of Coca-Cola contains 26g sugar: http://www.coca-colaproductfacts.com/en/coca-cola-products/c... 8oz of Tropicana orange juice contains 22g sugar: http://www.tropicana.com/products/tropicana_pure_premium/no_... If you're concerned about your Vitamin C intake, try a multi-vitamin.

The same can be said for most juices, regardless of how recently they have been squeezed. While I usually suggest drinking something that isn't full of sugar, I'm glad science and engineering has found ways to store juice for long periods without spoiling. These techniques can probably be used in other ares. Advances in science and technology often have wider benefits, often unexpected. The only potential problem I s…

Quite right, which is why I never drink juice, and suggest you don't either.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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So they don't have to list the flavor packets as ingredients. But why are they allowed to advertise "100% pure premium Florida orange juice"?

I think it's because the flavor packets are also made from 100% Florida orange juice, even if it's just extracts processed from oranges, not the raw juice.

That's if you believe the claims in the "article". It could be that no such additions are done and that's why they're not listed.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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I found this a little odd: > Haven’t you ever wondered why every glass of Tropicana Pure Premium orange juice tastes the same, no matter where in the world you buy it or what time of year you’re drinking it in? Or maybe your brand of choice is Minute Maid or Simply Orange or Florida’s Natural. Either way, I can ask the same question. Why is the taste and flavor so consistent? And then > The packs added to juice earma…

Do you often shop at an American grocery store and then immediately at a Mexican or Brazilian grocery store?
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