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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#891

Well, shit. My home town has a tiny hobbyist theatre group. Their shows have like 30 people in them max, and half of those are family and friends. I set up a G Suite for them to handle email, because it was - you know - within their budget of 0€. There's no fucking way they can start paying 12€/user/month. That's more than they make from a show :D Any alternatives with reasonable pricing for ~5 people?

iCloud+ ($0.99/month in US) allows custom domains with 5 emails. I set iCloud to forward by creating a on addressed to rule. Configured the "Accounts/Import" in my gmail account with smtp (I always used this with my vanity emails). Not exactly the same as before for your usecase perhaps (everyone will need a free gmail), but about as cheap as I could find per recommendation elsewhere in this thread.

Cloudflare email routing is a good free option https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#892
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I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

I honestly would not mind a one-off fee to convert my accounts so that I can carry on using my accounts just like any other free @gmail.com user. I never used any of the extra functionality. I only wanted to use my own domain with Google.

Yeah, unfortunately going to @gmail may mean the account name isn't available because it's already in use. Almost all of my family members fall into that category.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#893

Does anyone have any recommendations on _easy and inexpensive_ ways to migrate an entire family off this (6–7 users)? The value we get is _not_ worth ~$500 US per year. I don’t need a full business suite. I mostly need the email and calendar. I’d need to poll other people whether they use Google Drive or not.

Best free way I know would be to move everyone to their own Gmail account, forward your mail via something like Cloudflare's new free email routing.

To migrate your emails across you could use the POP email feature in Gmail (set up an app user on your Gsuite first for the POP authentication and make sure you don't tick "keep emails on server" as this seems to prevent it from working).

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#894
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I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

> The loss of Youtube purchases; android play purchases, etc. is going to hurt. If you migrate to a different email provider, you won't lose access to any of your purchases.

Do you have a definitive source form Google on that? There seem to be conflicting messages from Google. (Not helped by the "may" wording on this page: https://apps.google.com/supportwidget/articlehome?article_ur... )

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#895

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Users won't lose anything purchased - your google login will stay the same (Same as you can use your Yahoo e-mail as google login), you will just lose g suite domain hosting.

I'm not following your line of thought. G Suite domain hosting includes the email address and the user licenses (albeit free ones.) If you stop paying for G Suite (Google Workspace) the user licenses will be revoked. They will not be able to login to Google services, access Play Store / Music / Movies purchases, etc.

I don't think there's a "line of thought". This isn't a logic problem - it's a business decision. Whatever Google wants to happen will happens. And some people have interpreted the available information - or have spoken to google representatives - and been told that they'll be able to keep using "additional" services such as music, movies, youtube, photos. And - this being google - other people have been told the opposite.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#896
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I find it interesting that there are already 79 comments and no one remembers: this was advertised back then as "FREE FOREVER". Even before that I was a beta user, quite sad that Google is not wealthy enough to keep its promise.

I think that is exactly why people are pissed off about this.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#897

I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?

No. People are pissed off because this is a clear example of bait and switch. Google advertised this as Free forever. Forever isn't a decade.

If they had instead marketed it as 'free for a decade and then you'll pay some arbitrary amount' what do you think the adoption would have been?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#898
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was subscribed to paid g suite for more than 2 years and only used custom domain email. When Apple released iCloud+ [0] or whatever it is called, I immediately migrated there and am really happy with it. You will probably need to subscribe to some iCloud plan and have an apple device. But if you already use those, you are good to go. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514

Does iCloud+ support wildcard catch-alls?

No :( And it has a 3 address limit per user + domain which is annoying.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#899
Same conundrum... I mostly used Workspace for email functions, never for the actual accounts since they are much more limited than vanilla "consumer" Google Accounts[1].

So I don't really have contents, just a bunch of lists that forward email to gmail accounts. Definitely not worth paying $72 per year.

I could move those lists to Google Domains email forwarding[2], but it only supports one recipient per alias. And by foregoing Workspace, I'd lose my ability to send emails.

To send emails I could either run my own SMTP (ew!), or use a commercial service such as Mailgun[3], ImprovMX[4] or ForwardMX[5].

If anybody has a better solution, I'm all ears.

[1]https://support.google.com/mail/thread/19229800/change-g-sui...

[2]https://support.google.com/domains/answer/3251241?hl=en

[3]The free plan includes 5000 emails per month

[4]Free for one domain but no TLS

[5]$60 per year for 25 domains with unlimited everything (fair use)

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#900

It's sad that the MBA's have finally taken over at Google, and now they have to squeeze every last penny out of their customers (on top of all the ads they sell). The worst part of all this, is most of us casual users just want to do email, nothing else. I personally don't have a high enough volume of email to even warrant paying out for most services.

My internal MBA is now planning an exit from Google's tightening squirrel-grip ecosystem because that's my profit-optimized path.
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