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The Model S is also a plasticky shitbox from the inside. This Ferrari will be colossally better in terms of build quality, ergonomics and handling compared to the S.
Sure, but his point stands. There is really no way to justify the price tag. With combustion engines at least you knew that you had an extremely rare feat of engineering.
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#882The iPhone 5C of Ferraris – and I am sure it'll have the same fate. It's doubly a shame because Jony actually owns one of the all-time most beautiful classic Ferraris – the 250 Europa. I was hoping they'd do a modern re-imagination and revival. https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/250-europa
The exterior of the car is silly, but I am really and truly blown away by the interior. It's really quite handsome and well-designed. Highly recommend giving this a skim: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design
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https://youtube.com/shorts/OPOS0tre9eQ?si=Be5vE9n4SJWiZvVs
Influencer with access is always going to say the thing that will keep them that access. We moved away from writers and magazines, right back to the same stupid shit. It’s a silly car; and their UI on the screen and app are terrible.
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#884The commentary seems pretty uninformed. My strong guess is the buyer of the electric Ferrari is not your typical Ferrari buyer. These same people probably criticized the Porsche Cayenne for 'not being fast enough' or 'lacking features that Toyota SUVs have' The target buyer is probably more like Dubai housewife with kids. They have a different aesthetic. They LOVE their iPhone. Everyone hating on it probably needs to…
Unrelated personal take: the tray screen is very nice. Great for changing navigation when your partner is helping you. There are some nice touches. Exterior is not my style, but then again, I'm not the target.
If you're talking about the screen on the arm w grab handles, I'd say it looks very practical, but looks like a design for a public space - like an accessible screen for buying tickets in a fairground.
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Never buy a Hyundai/Kia. They make the dumbest cost cutting decisions, like their recent immobilizer fiasco. The dealers are also, largely without exception, terrible.
Kia is pretty much well regarded in Europe. It was the first company to offer a 7 years warranty. I've been very happy with mine.
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#886Imagine having Flavio Manzoni as Chief Design Officer but deciding that for the most revolutionary car you'll ever need to make you want someone that never designed a car
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They’ll probably sell more units of this than Tesla ever will with the Cybertruck
Tesla has sold more Cybertrucks annually than Ferrari has sold all their cars added together.
Cybertrucks sold (including to themselves) - ~70,000
So no, Tesla has not sold more cybertrashbins than Ferrari has total vehicle sales
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Well I'll say this for the design (as a non-designer): 1. It doesn't look like any other car, though it still obviously looks like a car 2. The buzz, good or bad, is going to mean people hear about it, talk about it, and see it 3. If you see it in public you're likely to recognize it; whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen
But doesn't it look simply like "every sports car", like a dilution of all sports cars? To me it's like how a sports car would look in a video game which has no license to use actual cars. A "McLovin Testosterona"...
Think of it like this: even the most expensive iPhone isn't that much more than the base model. There's a limit on what you can buy, anyone with a decent job can afford the same phone that billionaires use. But what if there was something even more premium? Something that's higher performance and looks better, would you buy it if money was no issue?
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#889Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…
This is a disaster for Ferrari. You buy the brand, the car and its lack of reliability is well known and the difficult handling also well known. But its La Ferrari. This is the type of car that will be seen in the hands of people buying Cybertruck or the UK chavs that now buy Rolex. The moment that happens your brand is dead. Your customers will flock away back to Buggati and Aston Martin. Massive Ferrari mistake.
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#890This cars got a face that only a mother (Jony Ive) could love. Honestly it makes a prius look visually pleasing.
Lamborghini has been making prettier cars than Ferrari for 15+ years now. The entirety of the Ferrari line, looks-wise, is at best uninspired.