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FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s

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Post by Roark66 »

mattmaroon wrote: post #817
Roark66 wrote: post #778

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And that is why I think it is absolutely, mind bogglingly bonkers that Tesla is currently using "drive by wire" in a mass production car when this technology is not common in aviation at all. Only the huge airliners that benefit from extremely expensive maintenance schedules use full "fly by wire".

It’s only not in small planes, and then because of cost.

No, not just cost. Take a cessna columbus. An 8 seater executive jet. They chose to put fly by wire only on flaps. Is it because of cost? I doubt it. Pilots like "fly by wire" and people would gladly pay a 100k more for it on a $27 million aircraft. Even back in 2009 when it was still available.

Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s

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Dah00n wrote: post #604
WJW wrote: post #260

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I think GP meant that they might give more of a fuck (in the wrong direction) if sabotaging "just this one bolt" means this they can own a significant chunk of stock in the company they are part of. According to a quick search Boeing has a market cap of ~150 billion and 150k employees, so if you manage to hide that it was you who installed the bolt wrong then assuming the company gets distributed roughly equally amon…

Seems the fix is going to co-op straight away then.

Or to skip the co-op system entirely because it doesn't work all that well in practice.

Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s

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Post by diob »

dcow wrote: post #879
diob wrote: post #866

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No one said it was founded on capitalism. But that is our economic policy, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

For the judicial system’s behavior to result from capitalism would imply that our economic policy is baked into our foundational doctrine. I was just pointing out that capitalism did not beget our legal system.

What do you think capitalism is? Define it, and I think you'll see our foundational doctrine is designed to enshrine and protect the ideas of capitalism.

Much more talented and studied folks than I have explored this in depth, which you can find if you google capitalism and it's entanglement with the foundation of the USA.

Re: FAA orders grounding of more than 170 Boeing 737 Max 9s

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Post by user_7832 »

Roark66 wrote: post #880
user_7832 wrote: post #804

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Drive by wire isn’t the problem. You already have tons of electronics in a 10 year old car, from the ECU to ABS. However, there are relevant important standards and certifications in aviation, and I’m not sure if vehicular certs are as strict.

>Drive by wire isn’t the problem Yes it will be when you loose all power while going 80mph on a motorway because rodents ate the wiring 10 years later. "tons of electronics" in modern cars is not required for the most basic functionality such as steering and braking. Yes, you loose power steering and power breaking if it goes off, but you can still drive (unless maybe you've never driven without it and it surprises y…

That’s a valid point, I wonder how aircrafts avoid these issues.
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