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Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by jimbob45 »

john-radio wrote: post #779
liberty-DNBWM wrote: post #777

This is ridiculous. I couldn't speak for all subreddits. But for some of the subreddits I loved, it just shows how ignorant, arrogant and dictatorial they are. Those moderators didn't contribute to the value of the subreddits. They don't provide any valuable content at all. How can they move subreddits to private without approval from creators? This is fucking ridiculous.

That's exactly the question that all of the rest of us have about the reddit admins demanding millions of dollars from the app developers with a month's worth of notice. Why on earth are you criticizing the moderators? Have you never heard of the concept of a strike?

A strike hurts the company's owners primarily - much less so the company's consumers. This primarily hurts the company's users and does virtually nothing to the owners. Even worse, it highlights the dictatorial power reddit mods wield to be able to unilaterally decide to shut down their boards.

Don't hurt the people you want on your side.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by Rebelgecko »

andrewfelix wrote: post #809
762236 wrote: post #680

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stopped visiting reddit after too many mods censored me and others that don't conform to the left's ideology. Twitter is where I get content now. And I'm a liberal.

Care to give an example of something of yours that was censored? I've been on Reddit for almost a decade and only seen nasty ad hominin attacks and hateful speech censored. Seen plenty of right wing misinformation be downvoted into oblivion, but never censored.

I was banned from a wrestling subreddit because I corrected someone who didn't understand how marginal tax brackets work. Not ad hominem and IMO I wasn't hateful about it, although I might've said something about how it's frustrating that some people spread FUD about how you're better off making $90,000 than $90,001 because that'll push you into the next tax bracket (there are a few edge cases where that'll hurt you financially, but there's pretty rare and the post I was replying to was solely about income tax IIRC)

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by Rebelgecko »

skinnymuch wrote: post #847
uw_rob wrote: post #421

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I am not so sure that I agree here. What's interesting about reddit is that it is one site with very different UIs. The official reddit app has a focus on video/images and looks to be in competition with TikTok. old.reddit.com and Apollo are very much text centric apps. From my understand, reddit has a traffic breakdown of 50/50 on the text centric vs. visual centric UIs. With the UIs like Apollo being killed, and ol…

Is desktop new Reddit counting as text centric? From what others have said, 3rd party apps and old reddit have relatively low usage.

On the sub I mod, old and new reddit are basically neck and neck with ~10% of traffic. The bulk of traffic comes from apps, but I don't think there's a breakdown in the modtools of 1p vs 3p apps

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by Rebelgecko »

drexlspivey wrote: post #195
jimmytucson wrote: post #144

For the uninitiated, $2.52/month is what it would cost users to browse Reddit with Apollo under the current API pricing. RIF would be just $0.73/month[1]. For comparison, Reddit Premium is $5.99/month[2]. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/comment/... [2] https://www.reddit.com/premium

I don't get why you can't just bring your own API key with Apollo. It seems pretty simple to have the user go through Oauth to set up an app and have his own quota.

The API TOS has some nebulous verbiage about doing things that let a developer avoid the per app quotas, I'm sure reddit would apply it to any app that publicly did this

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by zehnfischer »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #661
jrnichols wrote: post #646

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This problem became much worse when Covid-19 came around too. Still to this day, there is a mod that will auto ban you from like 30 different subs including /r/pics and others if you so much as make a comment in a sub that they consider "covid minimizing" at all. How on earth reddit continues to allow such actions like that are beyond me.

>actions like that are beyond me I have this theory that religion is part of the human psyche, and that in 2023 we have more people that belong to a specific but as of yet unnamed religion than any point in history. It just doesn’t have a bible, it’s a screen. Requires conformity, but doesn’t have a dress code. There is ceremony seen in emojis. And the priests are people you know are lying but it’s the other guys tha…

I agree. But the word 'religion' doesn't fit anymore. It is believe system and the need to be part of a group that one can identify with. Compliance with the set of rules that this group subscribes to gives one an feeling of belonging and identity. The German author Juli Zeh talks about this. We are social animals and with the collapse of basically all societal institutions - not just religion, but also political organizations - we are desperately trying to figure out how we are and how we have to be.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by midoridensha »

memefrog wrote: post #632
a2tech wrote: post #434

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I don't think I agree with you. Every sub I'm on that has asked people if they should go dark (either temporarily or permanently) have seen overwhelming support for the protest. This includes subreddits such as woodworking, our local city sub, and arduino. These subs are NOT made out of power users and they all supported it.

The people that engage with polls on a subreddit are the power users of that subreddit and are probably not representative of the broader group. Remember: most people lurk.

No subreddit is going to survive or have any activity if all the "power users" leave, and everyone that's left just lurks. The lurkers are there to see the posts by the power users, and to enjoy the moderation by the power users (assuming the moderation is good...). No web forum can survive without active users.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by pndy »

sahaj wrote: post #251
justinhj wrote: post #197

Forgive me if I'm making a simplistic reading of this, but it seems the CEO has said that whilst apps and bots are making some good money, Reddit is losing money. Assuming Reddit has already taken cost saving measures (with 2000 staff maybe not), then how can they continue as a business losing money? I wonder if a model would work where all monetization of api calls has to be done through Reddit and the API itself, a…

I think they are fixing this by making bots? I got more followers in the last 5 days than I've had in the last 15 years: https://i.imgur.com/hjeVvtZ.png Something is up for sure.

Last week I had an attempt of contact via this new chat-thing from a completely empty new account

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by tgv »

goykasi wrote: post #347
tgv wrote: post #276

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Did you see the post where someone had reversed engineered some key encryption/obfuscation(?) function from the Android app which was just a substitution cypher and had a 66 byte memory leak on every call?

No. Do you mind linking to that?

It has been deleted! It was posted on r/programmerhumor two days ago (had "reverse engineered" in the title), there was a post about how the original post was deleted, and now everything is private.

The gist was that the function started out with a (fixed-size!) malloc, then copied the source key while applying the substitution cypher into the buffer, and then returned the result of calling a JNI function (NewStringUTF, IIRC) with the buffer, but did not actually free the buffer (which wasn't necessary in the first place). And this function apparently gets called quite often.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by celdon25 »

0xr0kk3r wrote: post #717
munchler wrote: post #700

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Many of us are quitting Reddit for good on June 30 when Apollo and the other third-party apps are killed. This week's strike is just a warning shot across Reddit's bow.

I don’t believe that for a hot minute. These peoples’ identities are so wrapped up in Reddit it’s be like amputating a limb. No way.

I'm inclined to believe this considering how toxic of a place it has become. If that didn't drive them away I don't see how losing some 3rd party "enhancements" are going to break the bank for them.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by lelanthran »

jupp0r wrote: post #799
lelanthran wrote: post #670

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> If Reddit thinks it's theirs, they will soon notice that nothing is left of their business when those communities have moved elsewhere. Where are they gonna move to? I'm not being facetious, I'd really rather like to know - where on earth are all these moderators going to start up their new groups on? If there was a viable alternative they would've found it by now and there wouldn't be a strike, there'd be a desert…

My best guess is that somebody will write a clone. It's not rocket science.

> My best guess is that somebody will write a clone. It's not rocket science.

Maybe they will, but there's nothing to move to today.

With nothing to move to, the users aren't going to move. Having a viable place next week might be pointless.

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