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Reddit Strike Has Started
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#712Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course you as a user don’t care that is profitable. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m not picking sides, but if you were the ceo/owner, you’d probably care about its profitability. If you were the owner of such a big site, wouldn’t you be thinking of ways to get yourself a -very comfortable- early retirement?
Me? No, I would not. For nearly 20 years I helped run Bandwagon, a co-op of nerds who toward the end of the dot-com bubble needed a place to put their personal web projects. We clubbed together to rent a full colo rack and we each put our servers in. There were many opportunities to try to turn this into a business. It might have been lucrative, might have been a failure. We kept it as a small co-op, and it was fine.…
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#713Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.
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I suspect at first they didn't really care about the 3P clients in coming up with pricing, they were looking at the bulk of API usage which is elsewhere (not sure where, but based on numbers provided by Reddit Apollo would be at most 1.4% of API usage and likely much less; other clients likely significantly lower given how Apollo was singled out) and looking at preparing to get paid for user content by VC-backed AI startups.
Once the pricing was announced and the 3P app developers started complaining, there was probably a Cartman moment in the executive offices and things just went downstairs from there.
Because of their hamfisted handling of this they're going to lose a significant number of long-term users, a fair amount of content as a noticeable chunk of those users delete their content on the way out the door, an absurd amount of community and unpaid volunteer moderator goodwill, etc.
Reddit is likely to keep most of the users for now, but the reaction is also driving a lot of people to suddenly explore alternatives that would have been completely ignored before - and at some point it's quite possible that those popular clients that don't even have Reddit in the name will shift to providing mature and familiar interfaces to those alternatives and that may be enough to push growth. Remember that no social platform started out big.
If Reddit actually wanted to make money from the third party app users it would have been almost trivial to do - require a paid account for API usage, introduce new paid account tiers ($18-24/year, $3-4/mo, the current Premium, a couple of more expensive 'family'/multiuser tiers). Have them variable in how much monthly API usage was allowed and other perks (e.g. multiple IDs with either split or pooled API usage). Run it through the payment system Reddit already uses which means they get almost all the money instead of 30% off the top for app store fees plus a chunk going to the app developers so they're safe from getting screwed by mis-estimating usage. Edit: heck, just converting a chunk of users to paid accounts would likely have been huge for them because it gives potential for converting even more in the future, plus the chances of upsells.
But no, 'You have 30 days to change your business model, prepare to handle $millions/year in cash flow, and rewrite chunks of your software to be subscription-based.' Hell, the only 2 that I know of that even used subscriptions are Apollo and Sync, they might have had a chance. Instead, Reddit went for plausible deniability, 'we didn't kill the apps, they had a path to work with us but they all just gave up!'
Feh.
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#714Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, that’s a low blow. These guys seem to hate their fan base.
I don't know of any site that will allow someone to set up a "secondary" API where they proxy all user requests, especially if they're using a variation of a trademark.
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#715Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.
I will continue to use reddit.
Might not be a bad thing tbh
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#716Strike you say? That's like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life". Like it's literally like saying "hey I need you in my life". Do you know what message that sends? What would you think if your customers would say "hey Im not gonna come for 3 days but I'm coming for the r…
Many of us are quitting Reddit for good on June 30 when Apollo and the other third-party apps are killed. This week's strike is just a warning shot across Reddit's bow.
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#717Strike you say? That's like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life". Like it's literally like saying "hey I need you in my life". Do you know what message that sends? What would you think if your customers would say "hey Im not gonna come for 3 days but I'm coming for the r…
Many of us are quitting Reddit for good on June 30 when Apollo and the other third-party apps are killed. This week's strike is just a warning shot across Reddit's bow.
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#718Earlier quoted context omitted.
That gives me a cert error then an Outlook Web Acess login. What is it? edit: presumably, https://tildes.net/ with an s
>Tildes is currently in invite-only alpha Worked great for Google+!
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#720Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mods are not fungible. It’s tempting to feel that they are, but they have an enormous influence on their communities.
Name a single mod. I can't.
I only knew one name, once, because the other mod showed him the finger and started another sub. I followed the drama, agreed he was a dick and moved to the new sub.
PS: actually, I remember heroofwar and pinko from HQGifs because they're part of the meta jokes of the sub.