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I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…

Doxxing someone's location != "free speech" by most people's definitions.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

#882
This is certainly a contentious debate that's more of a flamewar than a discussion, but I do not appreciate the HN approach of simply 'disappearing' threads without warning and the resultant waste of time in trying to figure out where they went.

Ironically, still easily accessible via the 'best' list: https://news.ycombinator.com/best

Dang, you can skip the anodyne PR statement.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #187

Coincidentally, the @TweetTweaker account — which AFAIK was the first to call wide attention [0] to Elon buying up twitter shares right after his $5k offer to @ElonJet was rebuffed — is currently suspended. Its last public interaction was around Nov 6, 2022 [1] https://archive.vn/WLXQJ [1] https://twitter.com/GreatPaul_Smith/status/15894241378646097...

It's pretty amazing that one guy tweeting public info made Elon spend 44 billion.

Where you live is public info, but publishing it still constitutes doxxing.

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#885

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serious question, does free speech extend to doxing? Personally I wouldn't like if there was a twitter that constantly tweeted the location of my car.

Why is it okay if Musk does it? Consider the following: The Twitter files contains a lot of private information and outs employees whom have received direct harassment. The ElonJet account contains publicly available information on a very accessible site. This does not make a statement about Musk nor does it tell who is inside the jet at the time. Which is closer to doxxing?

Professional communications and legal matters of accountability are far different than doxxing.

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#887

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She just got the role, why would she no longer work there? Presumably she was put there to enable this , after Yoel Roth abruptly left (and was subsequently defamed as a pedo by Elon, what's with the guy and pedophiles).

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I'm really worried about how our society is devolving to calling everyone we don't like a pedo. I hate Elon intensely but unless there is any actual evidence of pedo-like tendancies let's leave that alone. And I know that he famously played this game already and is doing so currently with former Twitter employees but lets not stoop to that level if we can avoid it.

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#888

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It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus... It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

I don’t mean to be a antagonistic but as the owner of twitter why would we expect he not have the right and ability to ban anyone he likes? When it was publicly held there was some accountability to the shareholders as part of the public. Now he can literally carry a sink around wherever he wants

I assume you are ok with the previous owner banning Trump?

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post #797

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So we have a company headquartered in SF, and I think something like 98% of twitter's political donations went to democrats, and the employees acted as constant activists whenever the executives didn't take action against high level conservatives (I'll leave aside whether that action was justified or not). Also, if you read the twitter files, the enforcement was fairly lopsided. Look what happened to @libsoftiktok --…

>> They just didn't like the "intent". She was instigating acts of extreme violence. Surely you’re joking. Or tell us how you really feel about certain extremely vulnerable & marginalized members of our society more, I guess.

Can you link to one of these instigations?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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post #779

He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…

You missed the followup where it was reversed 2 days later. "It appears @ElonJet is longer banned or hidden in anyway." https://twitter.com/JxckSweeney/status/1602354433807061070

The account you link to is now suspended for talking about ElonJet being banned.
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