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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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post #325

Personally, I couldn't care less about Reddit itself, but what's really annoying is that half of my Google searches end up in temporarily closed subreddits. Reddit has become some sort of a Stack Overflow lately - I hope all that knowledge will be moved somewhere else.

just add “cache:” before the url (without the quotes, without any extra space), most of the time it works. it should go to google cache in most browsers.

Thanks. Doesn't work with Vivaldi, but on Chromium it does!

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#872

Reddit could have avoided all of this years ago by building out the tools that moderators claim to need. Instead, they relied on third parties to create them. Doing this would have nullified mods’ strongest justification for protesting. While removing 3rd party apps is certainly annoying for users, mods are what keep the site functioning. The fact that Reddit chose to take this course of action tells me that they don…

Well they just had to build out this completely ridiculous chat room feature and the sorta nice looking but slow redesign.

And the.. avatars with micro transactions and possibly some NFT nonsense

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#873
post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

As far as I've heard, r/startrek already started their own instance at https://startrek.website and indicated they will close their sub for good. This may be the first major sub to be handed over. Paramount may then even sue startrek.website for IP infringement, etc. I'm re-stocking my strategic popcorn reserves.

They've already reversed the permanent closing: https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/14aifzm/rstartrek...

Turned out lots of the community members don't care about this and don't want to move. Shocking stuff

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#874
post #786

I think Huffman is falling into a trap that Kanye and Mark Zuckerberg have fallen into: trying to prove he's special. Kanye rose to fame as a young genius rapper/producer/designer and was acclaimed repeatedly. Zuckerberg rose to fame as a brilliant business twenty-something (according to the world around). They spent half their life being praised and told they're important, brilliant, special, prescient, etc. So they…

I'm not convinced infinite growth is possible.

Give me calm and stability over growth any day.

I tell my company all of the time, that paying bills and wages IS success. But it gets a lot of grimaces from investors etc. They can shove off in my opinion.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#875
post #9

If this wasn't connected to the blackout, this would be great news. There are a few mods, who when reddit was young, decided to squat every existing country's subreddit, along with common words. Those subs now work well with active mods below them. But the squatter still has full power, and can override any other mod. Now it will hopefully be easier to kick those mods.

Yep. Given that this is HN, try looking at /r/California. It's basically a person fief for a single user (granted, he's not nearly as obnoxious as many Reddit mods.) Yet simply because this user owns the obvious name, there is no real alternate sub for California-level news.

It’s exactly what happened to digg. MrBabyMan etc owned the front page so everyone who disagrees or just doesn’t care for their content left

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#876

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Stop pushing the narrative that the mods are the source of the protest. They're just acting on the behalf of the members of their subreddit who are upset at the direction of the company.

Agreed. I am one of the oldest active Reddit users and I 100% agree. I have voted in many subreddits' polls for this. I mod a handful of small subs myself and have done the same. My needs are not the same as some of those large subs, so I am not continuing the blackout, but I fully support those that are. I intend to keep using old.reddit.com and never installing their mobile app instead of my 3rd party client.

> I am one of the oldest active Reddit users and I 100% agree.

I am older than you, and I don't agree.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#877
post #558

What makes me really sad was there was a way around this. Even if we accept the CEO’s lie that running the API is costly , Reddits monthly revenue per user is $0.12 at best. They were demanding $2.50 per user per month from third party apps. A simpler solution - “users who want to use third party apps need to pay Reddit $6/month directly by subscribing to Reddit premium”. That would have raised way more revenue! And…

That’s the egregious thing. They wanted 20x their own revenues per user. And mind you that’s comparing revenues and costs. So it’s actually like 40-60 times more.

I think they are pricing in the future value of training an AI on reddit data, which *may* very well be a 20x investment in the long term.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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If anyone is thinking they are bigger than they are it's these mods. Some of my favourite hobbies have been absolutely tainted by people who become mods of a community who put their societal/political/sexual beliefs with equal weight with the actual topic of the sub reddit. Say anything that mildly offends the mods personal beliefs? Banned. Or at the very least, find yourself limited in the role you can play in the c…

I've seen this argument a lot on here and I don't really get it. I go to specific hobby subreddits to talk about specific hobby subreddit things, not to see other people make irrelevant comments or something that might mildly offend someone else. As far as I am concerned mods are well in their rights to shut that kind of stuff down.

This sort of sentiment usually comes from someone that can't help but argue about politics in an area for, say, houseplants. Sorry, but I don't want to discuss Grundrisse in a hobby subreddit. I don't want nazis yelling at me about jewish conspiracies in an analogue synth subreddit.

"Waaah I can't say edgy things everywhere I want" is such a weak complaint against community-led moderation.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#879

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If anyone is thinking they are bigger than they are it's these mods. Some of my favourite hobbies have been absolutely tainted by people who become mods of a community who put their societal/political/sexual beliefs with equal weight with the actual topic of the sub reddit. Say anything that mildly offends the mods personal beliefs? Banned. Or at the very least, find yourself limited in the role you can play in the c…

I've seen this argument a lot on here and I don't really get it. I go to specific hobby subreddits to talk about specific hobby subreddit things, not to see other people make irrelevant comments or something that might mildly offend someone else. As far as I am concerned mods are well in their rights to shut that kind of stuff down.

One moderator (who has since been removed) would regularly remove anything critical of gnome or systemd, and would hand out bans to anyone they considered to be "bullying" either of those groups. I think their standard for bullying were pretty low, it was more that they wouldn't tolerate any criticism at all, but your mileage may vary.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

#880
post #753

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> ... they don’t actually know that much about their own website. That might also explain why they never built out the tooling to begin with. Its this. It starts at the top: > Huffman, also a Reddit co-founder, said he plans to pursue changes to Reddit’s moderator removal policy to allow ordinary users to vote moderators out more easily if their decisions aren’t popular. He said the new system would be more democrati…

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