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Post by agumonkey »

aguzzi94 wrote: post #856
agumonkey wrote: post #820

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Typical consumerism. I have siblings who did the same for a fancy bed. These people are mostly helpless. And you're only an employee.. I'm sure it's not great to try to turn a customer away from a sale right ? Even as a sibling, unless I'm ready to start a family war there's no leverage. ps: the 40yo man might have sold or made use of the other iPhone. I hope he did not just pile them up in a drawer.

For me personally, working there was a perpetual moral internal debate. I was good at convincing people that were on the edge of buying. On one hand, the more you sell, the higher the commission you get, for you and the whole team. On the other hand, you have to sell tech that is one of the best, but for the time being, totally overpriced. Therefore, you have to manipulate a lot, and tell half-truths if not blatant l…

oh bad deal for the 40yo man then..

I applaud your approach to sales, very empathetic. Are you still working there ?

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Post by Lio »

mirkules wrote: post #616
fmajid wrote: post #591

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I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone. What would make me "upgrade" (not sure if I can really call that an upgrade in the absence of a headphone port). Must-haves: 1. USB-C 2. 5G support using a single-chip like the Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 baseband chipset (not a separate 4g and 5G chip as with t…

For me, the must haves are: 1. Headphone jack. Absolute MUST for any sort of music recording (lag, quality) and long distance running (battery life). 2. TouchID. My wife has FaceId and I hate it so much. Everything else I can live with or without. I’m still on my 6s+ for those reasons, and it’s sad. Nobody would NOT buy the latest iPhone if it had those things. But a non-zero population doesn’t buy it bc it lacks the…

This is exactly the case for me too, I love my 6S+. My only problem is that the battery is starting to die. Now I would just replace the battery and stick with it but some years ago I dropped the phone and the screen shattered.

You can't see the cracks in normal head on operation and there are no usage issues but I think it would mean that I'd have to have the screen replaced to replace the battery. At some point this is not economically good sense.

I can easily afford an new iPhone every year but I want a headphone socket for use with Rosetta Stone. When I use my headphones wirelessly with it it switches to a headset profile (with an annoying beep) and the sound quality drop to that of a headset before it switch back to audio profile (with another annoying beep).

Apple's solutions things like audio in the new iPhones seems half baked. Using a 3.5mm headphone lead with the same Bose QC35s everything works perfectly with clear sound at all times.

Also FaceId won't work when sitting in the charging cubbyhole of my car, TouchId does.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by aguzzi94 »

lelima wrote: post #821
aguzzi94 wrote: post #792

Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…

> "Then we tried with 20 months one. Finally, accepted" The social pressure for having "an old phone" most have been incredibly high. Something like that happen to me on university, I had a 5 years old phone with no Whatsapp/Blackberry chat. It made me feel so left behind and even sad sometimes.

The cool thing now is that you can have a brand new 2019 phone with the latest tech for 300/400 euros. So if you want to keep the pace, you can do it without selling your soul. I think it's more about the temporary sense of worthiness that an Apple product can give you.

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Post by ollie87 »

tyre wrote: post #560
lucisferre wrote: post #541

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This is a very routine reply around here to every new iPhone announcement. Would you perhaps be able to elaborate on the features or improvements you did want to see but didn't? I mean I have an iPhone 8 and what I see are: - An edge-to-edge screen - Longer battery life - Faster processors - Improved cameras (don't care much myself but it is still improved) - FaceID - Updated Wifi and LTE technologies (not sure how m…

iPhones at this stage feel like cameras first and the rest is standard. I’m also on a 7 Plus. This iteration feels far enough ahead of mine to be worth considering. The only other update I want is more battery life. They’re thin enough; make them a third thicker with all of that used for battery. Or just thicker so the new camera is flush against the back casing.

In the same situation, my launch model 7 Plus still reports 92% battery health and has generally been a good device. The XR didn't interest me, but the 11 has my attention a little more.

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Post by Cort3z »

ramraj07 wrote: post #828
Cort3z wrote: post #729

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You then pay somewhere around 175 to 260 usd per year for your phone. The newest iPhones are about $1000. From my experience, and from others, they last a very long time, and a 4 year cycle can be expected, as well as passing the phones on to their kids and so on. There is also the possibility to sell it used down the line, and the iPhones keep their value much better than any Android phone. Thus the "expensive" iPho…

Mostly sound logic and I switched to the iPhone 5 years back after a similar calculation. Only, the 6s started becoming wonky in 3 years and I most definitely missed _some_ Android features. When it was time to upgrade, it apparently also became time for apple to jack up the price of their flagship to a thousand bucks and I just vehemently avoided that out of principle. Looking at alternatives,the Galaxy seemed like…

That is true, but then again, you can probably repair it 3 years down the line. Repairing a 3-year old Android is usually not as easy.

Don't get me wrong, I am writing this on a Sony Android phone, which I expect to get 0 dollars for if I try to sell it. But from an economic perspective I don't think there is a clear advantage to Android devices.

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Post by mruts »

bluescrn wrote: post #754
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I guess that's why Apple seems to be positioning their Phones for `Pros`. I kind of feel like it's the `Note` equivalent of Galaxy series. And also for the same purpose, the showed videos of Professional Videographer shooting videos with the iPhone 11 Pro. Those are the people who'd probably take out raw video/pic and edit it in Premire or lightroom. This opens a huge area of business for them, if they can convince a…

With Apple these days, Pro means ‘bloody expensive’, and even more so outside the US. The rebrand may help to justify the pricing, but it’s odd to do that with such an incremental update, rather than save it for a year with a bigger design change. For a lot of the world, a $500 smartphone was a luxury, and a $1500 smartphone (like a $3000+ laptop, or $1000 monitor stand) is an unfunny joke. While they’re amazing devi…

I live in a country where practically no one except businesses possess personal computers and maybe 50% of the urban population has a smart phone (usually some $30 Huawei crap). I worry that this kind of leap frogging that 3rd world countries do is harmful in this specific case. The web to them consists entirely of Facebook, YouTube, WhatsApp, and Instagram. Telecos provide extremely popular subsidized “internet” packages that consist exclusively of access to these sites. Instead of the web and technology being catalysts for production, they are solely used for consumption.

This in my opinion is very dangerous and will prevent the country from ever becoming a producer of information and services.

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Post by aguzzi94 »

kmlx wrote: post #819
aguzzi94 wrote: post #792

Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…

"This gentleman was so brainwashed into FOMO by Apple that threw 1000+ euros out of the window" for some people, a dinner out costs $2k. that is why you should never judge your clients. same thing for the other gentleman. you don't know their stories, or their backgrounds.

I knew/know this person personally. We all knew him because he was an habitual client. He is working as a professor in high school. So the probability of him being so wealthy to change one iPhone per week are not that high. That said, even if he is, do you think that his behavior would be consider sane? His story is just to point out how the sense of worthlessness in some people is financially exploited by prestigious brand like Apple.

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Post by aguzzi94 »

WilliamEdward wrote: post #824
aguzzi94 wrote: post #792

Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to s…

It's kind of sad really. Businesses prey on the human condition and there's nothing we can do about it because, well, Apple's not really breaking the law and we all like good cellphones.

100% agreed.

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Post by eric-hu »

ekzy wrote: post #858
hownowbrowncow wrote: post #16

I'm quite sad they have removed 3D Touch from the phones. A minor feature I really enjoy with quick peeking — and bummed to lose that touch information for apps like Procreate Pocket and other drawing tools.

The 3D Touch on the keyboard to edit text is absolutely amazing. I use it all the time and saves me a lot of time. I love it. It's a shame that most people don't know about it. However I don't use any other feature with 3D touch, either because I don't know about it or I find it useful.

I also use 3D touch along the left edge for app switching.

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Post by philliphaydon »

mrtksn wrote: post #809
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #793

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He took different pictures of same scene under same settings from about half dozen flagship phones, shared the picture on different social networks and asked people to vote. This test for real-life camera usage is as objective as it can get. Most people shoot pictures to put on social networks, not to submit for documentary film awards.

>This test for real-life camera usage is as objective as it can get Not at all, most people do not take different pictures of the same scene under the same settings from about half a dozen flagship phones, post it on Instagram and ask which one is better. In fact, this is the only time I've seen such usage. In practice, people use a single phone to capture moments that do not come back and even if the scene is repeat…

I have a Sony A7 and a bunch of lenses. Prob 10k on lenses. I still use my iPhone 7 to take photos of my Daughter cos capturing the moment is more important the the detail or colour of the photo.
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