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iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by Lio »

oldboyFX wrote: post #789
Tepix wrote: post #782

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> Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years Agreed. Even a Xiaomi Mi A2 with Android One for 130-150€ is almost on par with these high end phones that cost eight times as much: It's fast enough. It has a gorgeous display. It has a decent camera and it has up-to-date software. In these times of diminishing returns it's amazing that Apple…

I doubt many people are buying iPhones for extra privacy.

Well I am. It's anecdotal but it's the one thing that keeps me on iOS.

I'd bet given the rise in privacy plugin use for browsers (Privacy Badger, uBlock, etc) I'm not the only one doing that either.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by aguzzi94 »

Former Apple Store employee here! You would be surprised by how people become blind from all the smokes and mirrors of the Apple branding and advertisement. I remember one day, there was a 40-something years old man, that came in with an iPhone X and switched it for an XS, adding 500 euros. Only to return 1 week later to switch the XS for an XR with better storage, adding 250 euros. Only to return 2 weeks later, to switch the XR for an XSmax adding 400 euros more or less. This gentleman was so brainwashed into FOMO by Apple that threw 1000+ euros out of the window. One other time, there was another gentleman that clearly couldn't afford an iPhone X. He was so torn when deciding if to buy or not. I tried to give him hints that it was better if he let go of it ("maybe wait next year, your iPhone 5 is still doing the job"), but no, in the end he decided to go for it and we tried to do a 6 months payment plan. His card got rejected. Then we tried with a 10 months payment plan. Rejected. Then we tried with 20 months one. Finally, accepted. He wasn't even happy about that. Was probably thinking about what he was going to have to renounce for that iPhone. I tell you, the whole process was physically painful.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

mrtksn wrote: post #779
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

> MKBHD made a blind test last year and low-cost smartphone Mi Pocophone which scored pathetic camera performance in individual reviews came out top in the blind test. This simply means that it was a crappy test. As far as I remember, people choose a colour profile that was much more punchy. Cameras are much, much more than a colour profile. These tech reviewers are fun to watch but I wouldn't base my opinions solely…

He took different pictures of same scene under same settings from about half dozen flagship phones, shared the picture on different social networks and asked people to vote.

This test for real-life camera usage is as objective as it can get. Most people shoot pictures to put on social networks, not to submit for documentary film awards.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by hans1729 »

Tepix wrote: post #784
gambiting wrote: post #766

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The biggest issue I have with buying a new phone is getting fewer features(!!!). I have a OnePlus 5T and that's the last OnePlus to have a headphone jack. There's nothing that I can "upgrade" to without losing that feature(from OnePlus). And the performance of the 5T is more than enough, so there's literally no reason to upgrade.

Why not just use a small, cheap headphone adapter (or several)?

That's not really the point, is it?

The point is that the upgraded version ships with less features. I use bluetooth-headphones so I don't care, but I can easily see why this is infuriating to others.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

headmelted wrote: post #776
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

"Case in point : MKBHD made a blind test last year and low cost smartphone Mi Pocophone which scored pathetic camera performance in individual reviews came out top in the blind test." Marques doesn't have kids. I loved my Redmi Note 4. I even liked the chin, as the buttons were on it - so my usable screen size was actually larger than the Pixel XL that replaced it. That phone took perfectly acceptable shots with stil…

Going from a crappy camera to something like on Pixel3a is truly a leap especially when you are looking photos yourself on the screen.

But say you had bought iPhone 8 (same year as Redmi Note 4) and you share pictures to social media; Pictures from iPhone 11 would be indiscernible to those who see your photos at the other end.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by avl999 »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #731

Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication). Improvement in camera could be enticing, but the platforms to which the photos, videos a…

> Smartphone hardware is done. There's no significant gain in buying a new smartphone if you have bought one in last 3 years, absolutely nothing if the battery is replaced; there could be even diminished returns if you buy a new smartphone(unavailability of headphone jack, losing metal body, losing faster biometric authentication).

Yep. I have a BLU smartphone that I bought for $55 bucks off of Amazon. It literally does everything I need and has now lasted me > 2 yrs with no sign of slowing down. I will never understand why people would pay the price equivalent to buying a decently speced out desktop or laptop for a phone when there are so many cheaper alternatives that provide the same features and functionality.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by skrause »

noneckbeard wrote: post #785

Does everyone here also drive a base model Honda Civic because “car hardware is done”? This is a luxury product and people upgrade because it’s fun and feels great to have the fastest phone and fanciest camera. It’s not that big a deal, and it’s definitely not a ripoff.

> Does everyone here also drive a base model Honda Civic because “car hardware is done”?

Well, I do (although it's a base model Hyundai). I also still use an iPhone SE and will do for the foreseeable future.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by woutr_be »

bengalister wrote: post #716
woutr_be wrote: post #665

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Besides just incremental changes, what could people possibly expect from the next version of a smartphone, especially with the technology that we currently have? I get that 5-10 years ago it was a totally different field, when technology wasn't matured, and everything they announced was something groundbreaking. But now, besides from the yearly camera and chip improvements, I honestly can't think of anything I would…

For me, it would be the phone replacing my laptop and tablet with docking stations or foldable screens and adaptative OS (like Samsung Dex). Phones are powerful enough to do that. I also imagined a portable docking station with just a screen, maybe some battery and something to attach your phone to transform into a tablet. The main reason is that I don't like managing different devices, installing different apps, usi…

It’s something I’ve been wanting too. I use a desktop for serious work, tablet for casual browsing and game, and then a smartphone for when I’m on the go and messaging.

I would love if I could just have one device, and different adaptors for different situation. Although I’m not sure if current smartphones are powerful enough for pro-desktop users.

Obviously the OS would have to adapt as well, and not just the smartphone OS scaled up.

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