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Post by matheusmoreira »

autoexec wrote: post #845
matheusmoreira wrote: post #829

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What's wrong? Everything. Screenshots of text are popular because people don't seem to be able to copy and save data anymore. Social media apps don't let users download pictures anymore. I can only share intra-platform links to content. The Instagram app won't even let me select text. People get around this insanity by screenshotting the whole screen and saving a poor quality version of the data in image form. This i…

> Social media apps don't let users download pictures anymore. These aren't problems with screenshots of text (although others have done a pretty good job in listing those) or even problems with computing. These are problems with shitty social media platforms that want to take control from their users, and with the users who accept those kinds of limitations. Stop using bad user-hostile platforms and they'll either i…

> Stop using bad user-hostile platforms and they'll either improve to win back users or they'll become obsolete and die as people flock to better alternatives.

There's no point in migrating to some perfect encrypted federated free software platform and being alone because everyone I know is still using Instagram.

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Post by vkou »

christophilus wrote: post #627
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #553

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Also a reminder - a left-wing nut shot Scalise during a baseball game. Rand Paul was attacked at his home and had his ribs broken. There was an assassination plot against a conservative-leaning Supreme Court justice. The right does not own the monopoly on violent nutjobs among their ranks. Sadly, they exist everywhere, left, right, and center.

Yep. The extremes have gotten crazier. Hence the thought that civil war or at least a really nasty escalation could happen.

No, they haven't. The left used to have people like the Weathermen, the civil rights movement used to have the Black Panthers. Nowadays, there aren't any groups with their reach or methods, whereas their equivalents on the right have exploded in popularity, mindshare, and political reach.

That explosion is what made Jan 6th possible two years ago, and what will give legs to the next try.

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Post by JimDabell »

shadowgovt wrote: post #512
mikkergp wrote: post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

I don't see anything in Elon Musk's past operation of businesses as CEO that suggests to me he's going to have a better sense of how to run a social network than the previous operators. I predict the best case scenario is that he does no worse.

He uses Twitter a lot. The previous CEO barely uses it. That alone gives him a massive advantage.

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Post by klyrs »

lazyeye wrote: post #849

You mean genuine diversity (of thinking) instead of the fake, superficial kind (skin color, gender, sexual orientation etc)? Sounds like a good idea to me..

No, it will consist entirely of ultra-wealthy knobs. Don't drink the koolaid, kid

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Post by rkho »

threeseed wrote: post #704
josh_carterPDX wrote: post #420

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"Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers." I actually think the opposite is going to happen. He's already said he wants Twitter to be the most prolific site for advertisers saying that he thinks advertising can "delight, entertain, and inform you." If he introduces a subscription model TikTok will pull ahead and take over the entire social media space.

> If he introduces a subscription model TikTok will pull ahead and take over the entire social media space. No it won't. A lot of people simply aren't interested in short form video. I think there will be another app that is half way between Twitter and LinkedIn.

Agree, Twitter and TikTok are two completely separate experiences.

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Post by riffraff »

JimDabell wrote: post #853
shadowgovt wrote: post #512

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I don't see anything in Elon Musk's past operation of businesses as CEO that suggests to me he's going to have a better sense of how to run a social network than the previous operators. I predict the best case scenario is that he does no worse.

He uses Twitter a lot. The previous CEO barely uses it. That alone gives him a massive advantage.

But is his usage reflective of the majority of the users?

It's like saying that if you own a Lamborghini you can be a great manager at Lada.

Yeah maybe it helps a little but the vast majority of your decisions is still going to be determined by analysis on your users, not your experience.

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Post by blix »

howinteresting wrote: post #827
andsoitis wrote: post #683

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Isn’t the fact that we separate gender and sex because one (gender) is a social construct while the other (sex) isn’t?

No, gender-sex separation has always been an oversimplification. The fact is that gender identity is driven by complex interactions between biology and society. There is no better explanation for why regret rates for gender affirming surgeries are the lowest across all of medicine .

I've never heard this before. Can you point me some place where I can read more?

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Post by riffraff »

wyclif wrote: post #790
Xelynega wrote: post #723

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Mismanaged according to who, him? He bought it because he forced the stock price down with the announcement and was forced into buying it.

"Forced into buying it" is really not an accurate way to think about it. It makes it sound like he never wanted to buy Twitter, when in fact he did want to buy it for less money because he knew the valuation was too high (because of bot farms, managerial bloat, &c.)

He set the price, than backpedaled not because he discovered new information, which he did not, but because the market slumped.

We know this because he decided not to go to court to prove that Twitter had hidden information.

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Post by petre »

Xelynega wrote: post #723
blagie wrote: post #719

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Ho boy was Twitter mismanaged up to now. I think that's why he bought it.

Mismanaged according to who, him? He bought it because he forced the stock price down with the announcement and was forced into buying it.

44bn is a lot for a social media company. Westinghouse was sold off for 7.9bn. They make nuclear reactors as opposed to distributing short text messages over the Internet.

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Post by root_axis »

55555 wrote: post #830

Everyone seems to say there’s no moderation policy that will please everyone. Sounds right. But the real physical world has freedom of speech and it works pretty well. There’s a KKK meeting going on somewhere right now and yet none of us are bothered. Is the issue really freedom of speech or is it that Twitter puts people who would absolutely hate each other into the same room? What if you just fix that second part i…

> the real physical world has freedom of speech and it works pretty well

If someone were to enter a privately owned "public square" in the physical world and start yelling racial slurs, they'd be removed by the cops.

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