I’m not a Windows user anymore but could this potentially help? I came across it on my Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/dragosr/status/1441894003822120960?s=21
Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#852I learnt quickly that my circa 2016 MacBook Pro 15” would do this too. Sometimes when I got it out of my satchel, most of the battery had been drained and it was far too hot to use.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#853Earlier quoted context omitted.
> like bad keyboards, bad trackpad (too much scrolling, jagged scrolling, bad trackpad surface) Curious to hear more about the keyboard / trackpad issues you're seeing. I have an older XPS model, which has the best laptop keyboard I've ever used (better than any MacBook I've tried) and a great trackpad too (I haven't used a MacBook from the last several years, but it's hard to beat physical left/right buttons). Has t…
My 7590's keyboard is the polar opposite of the new Macbook butterfly keyboard which is considered too slim/tight/short-key-travel -- the Dell's keyboard is harder to press, they keys wiggle (this is exacerbated on the big keys like the Spacebar) -- a fast touch typer will hate this keyboard. (And even much more so after getting used to the Macbook's short travel keyboard (2018 mbp pro)). Interesting, last time I che…
> a fast touch typer will hate this keyboard
Interesting. On this site, I see nothing but complaints about the Macbook short travel keyboards. I have not used one for more than a few minutes, but I am a fast touch typist and I like the greater travel with my XPS keyboard. It's a whole lot better feeling than the 2014 MBP I have compared it with; the latter has more travel than newer Macbooks but has a mushy, foam-like feel to its switches rather than the firmer, actuator-like feel that I'm used to with the XPS.
> last time I checked (years ago), Linux was abhorrent when it came to trackpad support.
This depends a lot on the features you're expecting, and also whether you have a touchpad that's compatible with good drivers or not. For a long time the multi-touch story on Linux wasn't great, so users coming from Macs and expecting to use 3, 4 or 5 finger gestures were inevitably disappointed. I find myself not really using these gestures, even when I use a Mac (I bind keyboard shortcuts to my most used functions with Karabiner instead), so it doesn't matter much to me.
Rather, I'm comparing the behavior of a certain class of low quality touchpad that you find in cheap laptops. In Windows, I've seen these touchpads jerk around, not really detect your finger properly, have weird acceleration ramps, and have bad palm rejection - seemingly issues with the touchpad itself, yet become vastly improved when switching the laptop over to Linux, provided that you could use the synaptics driver.
Stuff like trackpad scrolling speed has of course always been configurable system wide on Linux, along with many other features. It's even available in the libinput driver, which (unfortunately) got rid of most of the "knobs" for touchpads.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#854Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux has reliable sleep on many more laptop models than mac os. But the rule is that you need to buy known good hardware that supports Linux to have a frictionless experience. (Yes this means you often have to buy something that's been on the market for a bit of time already.) Anecdotally I've had less sleep problems than mac-using coworkers, over a long time and many laptops.
> you need to buy known good hardware What is this "known good hardware"? I was thinking of somehow getting my hands on the FrameWork laptop since everyone and their mother keep singing praises about it but going through its forums makes it clear that it also doesn't do suspend and resume reliably. I've already seen plenty of people reporting that their AMD laptops don't do suspend resume and break with every new ker…
One way to know is reports on the web like you are already reading. Business ThinkPads with integrated GPUs tend to have many good models, for one concrete direction if you haven't found a starting point yet. Asking your sales rep, certifications, trying a live USB stick of your preferred distro at a friend/coworker/shop/it-dept owned machine can work too.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#855> All newer Dell laptops now use the Microsoft Modern Standby. So let me guess: "modern" here is indicates a shitty new thing that doesn't work as well as the old thing. ...after further reading, yep: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/dev... > On occasion, the system stays in the active mode (with the screen off) for a longer interval of time. These longer active intervals occur for a variety o…
It's not just Microsoft's fault. Intel have completely removed S3 sleep from the latest Tigerlake chips so even if you run Linux you end up with the same problem.
S3 is an ACPI concept, not a hardware one.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#856Earlier quoted context omitted.
> executables that I'm in the process of debugging In my case, virtual-machines. When Windows 10 decided it had to reboot, it would kill them dead. You can't quicksave those, and even if you did they have a higher-than-normal chance of not coming back up cleanly.
That's interesting, I usually treat the ability of easily snapshotting and restoring virtual machines as one of the main reasons for doing things inside a VM.
I believe some of the Ubuntu ones would occasionally just not recover correctly, some kind of video-card issue most likely.
In any case, Win10 did not signal VirtualBox to save state -- or else didn't give it enough time -- so I would occasionally come back to my office to find everything I was working on gone due to some mystery-reboot that I didn't recall scheduling.
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#857Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had the exact same experience. Nothing like being woken up at 2 am because Windows decided now is a good time to update. It's one of the major reasons I decided to switch to desktop Linux permanently.
> Nothing like being woken up at 2 am because Windows decided now is a good time to update. while i understand the intention behind automatic updates, i feel it's an anti-user design. It is based on the assumption (a bad one) that the user isn't intelligent enough to do the update at a time suitable for them. It assumes that the windows design and dev team knows better. It takes control away from the user. Rather tha…
I don't mind automatic updates, but I at least want to know when they're going to happen. There are two important pieces of information that are apparently impossible to obtain: "if I put my computer to sleep, will it wake up and update?" and "if I leave my computer on for the next hours, will it reboot and update?"
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#858Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW: 1) Looking at System Preferences right now, the setting for Power Nap reads as follows: > [x] Enable Power Nap while plugged into a power adapter > While sleeping, your Mac can back up using Time Machine and periodically check fro new email, calendar, and other iCloud updates This indicates that it should not have any affect on a sleeping MacBook in a bag (presumably disconnected from power). 2) That said, I ha…
If you switch to the Battery tab in Energy/Battery preferences, it's there: "Enable Power Nap while on battery power"
It is separate and definitely not the default
Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag
#859I stopped using my Microsoft Surface Pro because it had the same issues. It's a clusterfuck of bad design decisions at Microsoft, the most offensive one being that they prioritize the execution of their scheduled spyware upload (telemetry) over honoring the agreement with the user that a sleeping PC will remain asleep unless the user takes action. It'll even install updates at night and then make reboot sounds to wak…
What's super annoying is that Dell does not provide a BIOS option to switch between connected standby and S3. It's likely a cost saving decision because S3 is more complex to implement and having both options even more so. There are also some rumors that Dell may be under contractual agreement with MS to only support connected standby.
Psst. On certain motherboards Dell just removed the option from the UI but the implementation is still there. They also oh so helpfully store their config in EFI variables so... If you're lucky you can just flip the right bit and enable S3 sleep again. For example the G5 5505 has it in D01SetupConfig and you just need to find the right offset that corresponds to it. https://www.reddit.com/r/DellG5SE/comments/kpg3ez/how_to_dis...