Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

Post by toss1 » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 11:34 PM UTC

ahthat wrote: post #683

dade_ wrote: post #399

It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…

Media coverage of these protests is vastly negative. I remember only a few years ago (2020) when protests were undoubtedly violent across the United States. Video evidence of this violence as well as mass crowd driven theft was widely documented and distributed. I have yet to see video evidence of any violence from freedom convoys, and the ground based video evidence I have seen appears vastly peaceful. This does not…

Post by s5300 » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 11:39 PM UTC

justinhj wrote: post #836

flyingcircus3 wrote: post #819

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While we're on the subject of the fallacy of relative privation, you'll surely acknowledge that the closure of the Ambassador Bridge for a week is a couple orders of magnitude worse than the 2020 protests. After all, the appropriate measure of a protest is dollars lost, and hundreds of millions of dollars of goods cross the bridge every day.

According to Wikipedia there was up to $2b in insured damages and 25 deaths during the 2020 riots. Now regarding the bridge closure; there will be costs for delays and those will be substantial, but it's not like they just throw $400m of goods in the river because the border is closed.

Post by ceejayoz » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 11:43 PM UTC

throwaway894345 wrote: post #572

ceejayoz wrote: post #551

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Never seen a cop get off with "I feared for my life", eh?

Occasionally self-defense laws protect guilty people, but that doesn't imply that the law isn't a self-defense law . I'm sure there's lots of good criticism of this law, but characterizing it as the OP did is patent dishonesty. Even Vox wasn't willing to go that far ffs.

Post by flyingcircus3 » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 11:44 PM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #824

flyingcircus3 wrote: post #819

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While we're on the subject of the fallacy of relative privation, you'll surely acknowledge that the closure of the Ambassador Bridge for a week is a couple orders of magnitude worse than the 2020 protests. After all, the appropriate measure of a protest is dollars lost, and hundreds of millions of dollars of goods cross the bridge every day.

Not really that fallacy - no claim was made that it wasn't a problem. If anything, it's a musing on how media bias may affect how things are portrayed. Specifically with calling something violent. If violence is the adjective we are examining, the loss (or delay) of revenue from the protest would not fit in this model. I am curious though, are goods not being rerouted?

Post by flyingcircus3 » Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 11:49 PM UTC

pyuser583 wrote: post #831

ahthat wrote: post #683

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Media coverage of these protests is vastly negative. I remember only a few years ago (2020) when protests were undoubtedly violent across the United States. Video evidence of this violence as well as mass crowd driven theft was widely documented and distributed. I have yet to see video evidence of any violence from freedom convoys, and the ground based video evidence I have seen appears vastly peaceful. This does not…

Near where I live, one of the BLM protestors tried to burn down the local 911 center. He’s currently in prison for arson. Haven’t seen anything like that in this protest, but honestly I haven’t been looking too close.