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Which isn’t at all how PhD programs work. This is a supreme dick move to students are going to be forced to leave with an AbD for no other reason than Trumps ego. This is going to burn the children of the most powerful families across the world. Monarchies, dictators, owners of international conglomerates, etc all send their kids to Harvard. Destroying their children’s education out of a fit of malice is going to hau…
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#833I am going to get downvoted and flagged because I will bring up a topic that is not to be discussed here: From a similar CNN article: "Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem ordered her department to terminate Harvard’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification, making good on a promise made last month when she demanded the university hand over detailed records on its international students’ “illegal and vi…
It seems that what is portrayed as a dispute over Palestine, antisemitism and qamas is actually a cover for a power-struggle between the liberals and conservatives ( such as the Heritage foundation, Project 2025, and Yarvinites)
[1] - https://www.harvard.edu/research-funding/wp-content/uploads/...
[2] - https://www.harvard.edu/research-funding/wp-content/uploads/...
edit : But when i think of it more, maybe it is about Israel and Zionism but over a longer time-scale than recent events. If you look at some of the early anti-'woke' and anti-left movements like the self-proclaimed 'Intellectual dark web', lot of them are zionists who viewed the growing liberal disenchantment with zionism in the college campus and left-wing activism (including pro-palestine activism like the BDS movement) as an existential threat to Israel.
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#834The truly depressing thing is, a lot of people are actually happy about this action. How did things get so bad, so quickly? People who lived under authoritarian regimes have long said that things move slowly at first, but after an inflection point, get real bad, real fast. It's one thing to understand that intellectually, quite another to witness it first hand. Hopefully, the judiciary will block this particular madn…
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In what way would you like to hold them responsible? If there are reprisals for voting, do we live in a liberal democracy? Edit: If by "hold responsible" you mean "be mad at them" then yes, of course you can, I can't read a comment section that isn't mostly that, and you knew that before making this comment.
>If there are reprisals for voting That's what's happening now.. >"hold responsible" you mean "be mad at them" You make it sound simplistic. I mean calling them out, demanding an explanation. You have friends who support this then let them know you think they are wrong. All these horrific regimes throughout history, how did it happen? The majority of people agreed with it or was a vocal minority left alone because mo…
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#837Academia let itself get too political these last 10 years and deserved some kind of reckoning for it, yet somehow this manages to be so shameless that it makes academia look like the good guys standing up to an oppressive regime. Which means Harvard leadership actually has more reputation to gain by fighting this than by backing down, very similar to all those tariffed countries.
So academia being political was a bad thing, but now it's a good thing. How does that make any sense?
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#838What will the HN crowd do when Y Combinator's banned from foreign participants?
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How is the Supreme Court's 9-0 decision in favor of returning Garcia working out? The courts have been beaten months ago. We are well into crazy train territory.
We are in a non-constitutional crazy train territory, which will continue unless the right leaning voters do something about it at mid-terms. We're in the beginning of a very dangerous era.
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Exactly what “consequence” are you talking about? Voting by design is protected from retribution.
Retribution from the government, I meant socially.
Either way, at the point you’re talking of socially ostracizing a majority of the US population since Trump won the popular vote too.