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It’s not a prison to keep me in. It’s a wall to keep bad things out.
This reads like a modern retelling of the Stockholm syndrome and I cringe at this prevalent attitude on HN. If you do not have choice on the platform, you are in a prison. That is why it's called jailbreaking .
EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals
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#802Hey EU, can you please ask BMW to open everything up to its rivals so that I can use Toyota's infotainment system instead of BMW's iDrive. I also want to be able to run PS games on XBox & vice versa without having to buy separate copies. And lastly, how about you open up your very own market to everyone by lifting protectionist taxes
A correct analogy would be if BMW was taking a 30% cut from anyone selling seat covers for for BMW cars and EU telling them to not do that.
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So you say iphone can offer alternate stores/sideload and still keep old behavior for users that want to stay in apple's ecosystem? So why lock down iphone then? Consumers that want it locked down, will keep their old routines...
No, as alternate stores will change the experience for everybody. I download 0 new apps per year, but I use WhatsApp, Outlook, and Google Maps. Today, I get them all from one store - one password to remember, one credit card to have, one stupid set of "security questions" to forget the answers. Tomorrow, Facebook AppStore will be the only place to get WhatsApp, Microsoft AppStore will be the only place to get Outlook…
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iMessage is pretty rare. Europe is on WhatsApp
The opposite is true in the US. I'd guess that 95%+ of iOS users in the US text primarily on iMessage (excluding those who are primarily texting international contacts). I'm fact, that's probably the biggest reason I think Apple has been able to abuse their iMessage stance for so long: the EU has been far stronger at regulating compatibility and interoperability (we can thank the EU for the fact that we can finally g…
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If Blink becomes a monopoly, and with it chromium, then Google can finally be "properly" hit with an antitrust case over Chrome. Especially when combined with the fact the big G can't keep directly funding Firefox to create a fake competition anymore under the new rules from the digital markets act. Google should've been hit with an antitrust case on Chrome years ago and their recent shenanigans with the topics api o…
> If V8 becomes a monopoly, and with it chromium, then Google can finally be "properly" hit with an antitrust case over Chrome V8 isn't a monopoly in the antitrust sense, at all. Google gives away the source code to most of Chrome that allows other people to make browsers with it, and they do. Something being popular doesn't indicate a monopoly. Microsoft could choose to make a browser engine, but they don't, and it'…
Being on the standards board for "what browsers need to do", having the standards board under your thumb, and continually adding in requirements that only the highest spenders can afford to implement securely, that does indicate a monopoly.
Embrace (web standards), extend (with a billion features), extinguish (rival browser engines)
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The App Store is not perfect, but what was the last time you actually installed a virus on iOS or iPadOS? It's working Good Enough™ I wish/hope that as the default family IT guy, I will be able to set policies on my parents devices that block 3rd party apps.
I've literally never had an infected Android device, and neither has any member of my family despite the existence of sideloading. Also, when's the last time anyone's installed a virus on Macs? They're infinitely more open than their mobile counterparts, yet there's barely any issues there. I'm willing to bet the large majority of people don't even know what sideloading is in the first place, and even if you somehow…
That are marginally more open than mobile, but by default, there are still a lot of protections that (certain) developers complain about. Really, this is probably the model that you’re going to see — a phone that is locked down with a bright red shiny button that says “if you click this, you can run unsigned programs, but don’t ask us for help if you get hacked”. That’s basically how it works on Macs, except the button is grey. However, the OS is still far from open — certain developer rights are still blocked by signing keys/privileges.
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Big disagree. You just clean it out with a brush or something. Maintain your shit. God, imagine if you ever owned the roof over you head or something. USB-C has the retaining clips in the cable which is a replaceable and sacrificial item. Lightning has it in the device so once it goes the whole device is essentially dead. So much for "vastly inferior".
I take very good care of my things. The plug on my phone should not require daily maintenance though. I have had cell phones since the late 90s and USB-C is the only plug that has given me trouble. USB-C over a pretty short period collects lint. It gets compressed into the connector little by little every time you seat the cable and eventually your cable won't seat anymore. You then find a very solid plug in the bott…
That's an absurd exaggeration.
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#808I tend to drop the bot/shill-detector part of my brain when I'm on HN, but whenever this topic crops up it's always a deluge of people with the same exact arguments saying "ohh my poor grandma will be coerced to install a Virus if we allow the owner of an iDevice any freedom whatsoever with hardware they bought!!!", and it's quite interesting to me the volume of comments with the exact same identical sentiment copy/p…
The App Store is not perfect, but what was the last time you actually installed a virus on iOS or iPadOS? It's working Good Enough™ I wish/hope that as the default family IT guy, I will be able to set policies on my parents devices that block 3rd party apps.
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#809Maybe not surprising but if you read the comments on the website there seems to be only Apple fanboys commenting who are butt-hurt about it. You can not make this up, consumers who root for a monopoly. This reminds me of gamers who hate the Epic Games Store with passion even though they give the actual devs of the games a bigger cut. Competition is always good for the consumers. And I get the security part when it co…
> Competition is always good for the consumers. So lets have a walled-garden OS compete with a sideloading-enabled/free-for-all/anything goes OS. But no, instead they have to break a good thing. Now every idiotic company like Adobe will demand their own installers, and updaters, and background processes that you can't turn off, and piss all over the iOS, like they do on the macOS. And let's not get started onto force…
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#810Fucking good. It's bullshit that you can only run Safari on iOS or that the App Store is the only store you can use. Yes, I understand the security implications of a third-party browser having deeper integrations into the OS and potential battery life concerns. I also don't care. I want to run Firefox on my phone. The actual thing. With containers and extensions. Let Safari compete on the merits. I want the choice of…
Everything is stellar because it’s locked down. You can go “hack” on your android and leave the perfectly good status quo as is on the iPhone.