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Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by kevin_b_er »

ipsum2 wrote: post #45
sailingparrot wrote: post #25

> Meta's open-source approach makes this possible I'm sorry, was this article drafted in 2024 and never updated?

SAM3.1 was released and open sourced March 2026. But what's the point of correcting you? People will continue to propagate their own lies.

This is a false statement.

> Your use of the SAM Materials will not involve or encourage others to reverse engineer, decompile or discover the underlying components of the SAM Materials. > Your use of the DINO Materials will not involve or encourage others to reverse engineer, decompile or discover the underlying components of the DINO Materials.

It is not open source, thus the statement is false and a "lie". Nothing here is "open source".

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by khuey »

bmandale wrote: post #66
khuey wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've seen b before. React was controversially released with a similar clause and ultimately Facebook dropped it and used a standard open source license. Their lawyers really love this idea for some reason.

Was it released with it? Iirc they tried moving to such a license from bsd, which contains no patent grants whatsoever, and hence they thought it was a strict upgrade. The community did not agree so they moved back.

My memory is a bit fuzzy but I think you're correct.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by rat9988 »

lenerdenator wrote: post #49
khuey wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've seen b before. React was controversially released with a similar clause and ultimately Facebook dropped it and used a standard open source license. Their lawyers really love this idea for some reason.

Do their lawyers love the idea? Hard to say. My guess is, Zuck really likes the idea, so he keeps directing them and their chief counsel to try stuff like this. It's almost as if having a CEO of a company placed beyond the control of the corporate board is a bad thing.

> My guess is, Zuck really likes the idea,

You made an assumption, that's a good thing to expand thinking.

> It's almost as if having a CEO of a company placed beyond the control of the corporate board is a bad thing.

You can't draw such conclusion then.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by locknitpicker »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #70
locknitpicker wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...yes, Redux (not React) deserves to be #1, This is a rather perplexing statement to make. If anything, Redux only plays a role in adding syntactic sugar over React's support for reactive programming. More importantly, the general guidelines are that you should only bother with Redux if your SPA is already considerably complex.

> Redux only plays a role in adding syntactic sugar over React's support for reactive programming Redux doesn't have anything to do with any kind of syntactic-sugar for Reac. > the general guidelines are that you should only bother with Redux if your SPA is already considerably complex If one already has an (non-React) SPA which is not already built following Redux then you're stuck with what you've got; it isn't rea…

> If one already has an (non-React) SPA which is not already built following Redux then you're stuck with what you've got;

This is simply false and is outright wrong. This even goes against the most basic React+Redux guidelines. Dan Abramov, one of the creators of Redux, is quoted in Redux's FAQ:

> would like to amend this: don't use Redux until you have problems with vanilla React.

https://redux.js.org/faq/general

> it isn't really possible to take an existing SPA of any complexity and deciding to "make it use Redux"

Frankly, you sound as if you have absolutely zero experience with React. I know for a fact that a few flagship SPAs from a few companies, including some FANG webapps, do not use Redux.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by locknitpicker »

nxc18 wrote: post #62
locknitpicker wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ReactJS has been a very mixed-bag... This is a very confused statement to be made, specially after the last decade where React established itself as the de facto way of writing any and every SPA. Is it yet another example of "there are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses."

I think the universe of SPAs that should exist is far smaller than the universe of SPAs that does exist, and the hype around react is largely to blame.

> I think the universe of SPAs that should exist is far smaller than the universe of SPAs that does exist (...)

That's a pointless thing to say. Your personal opinion on how people should not use a technology weights nothing on a discussion on how the whole industry actually use said technology. For that to hold any value, first you would need to argue that you know better than the entire industry put together, which would be quite the claim. Occam's razor doesn't favor your statement.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by satvikpendem »

commoner wrote: post #43

Whenever Meta claims their models are open source, you have to double-check. SAM License ( https://github.com/facebookresearch/sam3/blob/main/LICENSE ): > iv. Your use of the SAM Materials will not involve or encourage others to reverse engineer, decompile or discover the underlying components of the SAM Materials. > v. You are not the target of Trade Controls and your use of SAM Materials must comply with Trade Cont…

Open source is not just open weight, even if weights are released under MIT. The source code to generate that binary weight blob isn't there.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by satvikpendem »

nxc18 wrote: post #62
locknitpicker wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ReactJS has been a very mixed-bag... This is a very confused statement to be made, specially after the last decade where React established itself as the de facto way of writing any and every SPA. Is it yet another example of "there are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses."

I think the universe of SPAs that should exist is far smaller than the universe of SPAs that does exist, and the hype around react is largely to blame.

So, you're complaining about it then.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by satvikpendem »

noodlescb wrote: post #27
Zaheer wrote: post #3

This fits with my impression of the 'personality' of various models: Meta: Perceptive (strong vision) Gemini: Fastest Claude: Smartest OpenAI: Prettiest

I love how consistently none of us even vaguely consider Grok an actual player

Grok 4.5 is Opus (perhaps 4.6 or 4.7 or so) class at coding, at a very high speed and a fraction of the cost. It beats Gemini models, even the latest 3.6 Flash, at every metric.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by satvikpendem »

dgellow wrote: post #73
andsoitis wrote: post #72

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When I think about how well or poorly an organization is run, some of the signals I look at are: a) ability to attract and retain talent b) ability to grow the company c) creativity and speed of execution On these three fronts it seems like SpaceX is run pretty well, at least above average.

You don’t care at all about a leader who has been lying to his customers for a decade?

Who cares what leaders say, they all lie, it's about what they actually get done and Musk has gotten a lot done even if he promised much and more. Words don't matter, only outcomes do.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Post by satvikpendem »

airstrafer wrote: post #28
noodlescb wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love how consistently none of us even vaguely consider Grok an actual player

The models might be good but the product design, user story, and marketing is so terrible that it’s difficult to see it as more than an also-ran

Cursor is doing quite well with Grok for coding.
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