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Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The models might be good but the product design, user story, and marketing is so terrible that it’s difficult to see it as more than an also-ran

Even that is kind tbh. The company is so poorly run and the leader so controversial that it makes it irresponsible to build anything serious that relies on their products. Other than the rocket part of the business, everything else under the SpaceX umbrella is a nonstarter.

Starlink arguably is not the rocket part and its the most profitable piece, it held together the rocket side of SpaceX and he expanded research and development.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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This fits with my impression of the 'personality' of various models: Meta: Perceptive (strong vision) Gemini: Fastest Claude: Smartest OpenAI: Prettiest

Why do you think OpenAI is the prettiest? Claude often makes better looking interfaces and designs. And I think OpenAI has solved more open math/ stats/ CS problems.

> And I think OpenAI has solved more open math/ stats/ CS problems.

Still surprises me that OpenAI seems to lead in this one weird niche, I wonder what causes GPT to be able to routinely pull this off, there was one instance where some random 18 year old broke some mathematical question without knowing more than high school math if I remember correctly, all because of GPT.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

#43
Whenever Meta claims their models are open source, you have to double-check.

SAM License (https://github.com/facebookresearch/sam3/blob/main/LICENSE):

> iv. Your use of the SAM Materials will not involve or encourage others to reverse engineer, decompile or discover the underlying components of the SAM Materials.

> v. You are not the target of Trade Controls and your use of SAM Materials must comply with Trade Controls. You agree not to use, or permit others to use, SAM Materials for any activities subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) or end uses prohibited by Trade Controls, including those related to military or warfare purposes, nuclear industries or applications, espionage, or the development or use of guns or illegal weapons.

> b. If you institute litigation or other proceedings against Meta or any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that the SAM Materials, outputs or results, or any portion of any of the foregoing, constitutes infringement of intellectual property or other rights owned or licensable by you, then any licenses granted to you under this Agreement shall terminate as of the date such litigation or claim is filed or instituted. You will indemnify and hold harmless Meta from and against any claim by any third party arising out of or related to your use or distribution of the SAM Materials.

The DINOv3 License (https://github.com/facebookresearch/dinov3/blob/main/LICENSE...) is similar but with the model names swapped.

It's always nice when a model's weights are released, but Meta's models are not open source because their weights always come with weird restrictions.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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This fits with my impression of the 'personality' of various models: Meta: Perceptive (strong vision) Gemini: Fastest Claude: Smartest OpenAI: Prettiest

They aren't talking about vision LLMs though. SAM and DINO are vision models, no LLM involved.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

#45

> Meta's open-source approach makes this possible I'm sorry, was this article drafted in 2024 and never updated?

SAM3.1 was released and open sourced March 2026.

But what's the point of correcting you? People will continue to propagate their own lies.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

#46

Whenever Meta claims their models are open source, you have to double-check. SAM License ( https://github.com/facebookresearch/sam3/blob/main/LICENSE ): > iv. Your use of the SAM Materials will not involve or encourage others to reverse engineer, decompile or discover the underlying components of the SAM Materials. > v. You are not the target of Trade Controls and your use of SAM Materials must comply with Trade Cont…

We've seen b before. React was controversially released with a similar clause and ultimately Facebook dropped it and used a standard open source license. Their lawyers really love this idea for some reason.

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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I'm no fan of Facebook or its social effects but I can't deny the wonderful downstream effect of their open source. Popular microscopy models like Cellpose[0] have leaned heavily on the cornucopia of open and SOTA power. I have no doubt thousands of biologists have benefitted from the capabilities these models bring. I think it was unthinkable just 5 years ago that a single biologist with just a laptop could do mass-…

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Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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This fits with my impression of the 'personality' of various models: Meta: Perceptive (strong vision) Gemini: Fastest Claude: Smartest OpenAI: Prettiest

I would replace Gemini with DeepSeek. I also find OpenAI smarter than Claude but Claude is better for API ergonomics and frontend

Re: Meta's AI models are powering the first wave of Genesis Mission projects

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post #46

Whenever Meta claims their models are open source, you have to double-check. SAM License ( https://github.com/facebookresearch/sam3/blob/main/LICENSE ): > iv. Your use of the SAM Materials will not involve or encourage others to reverse engineer, decompile or discover the underlying components of the SAM Materials. > v. You are not the target of Trade Controls and your use of SAM Materials must comply with Trade Cont…

We've seen b before. React was controversially released with a similar clause and ultimately Facebook dropped it and used a standard open source license. Their lawyers really love this idea for some reason.

Do their lawyers love the idea? Hard to say. My guess is, Zuck really likes the idea, so he keeps directing them and their chief counsel to try stuff like this.

It's almost as if having a CEO of a company placed beyond the control of the corporate board is a bad thing.

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