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Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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You have to be pretty spicy if you are getting banned from Reddit, as opposed to being modded. In the later case, you can set up your own subreddit, surely?

You do know that for a few years now Reddit has an automated system that checks every comment right after posting and will delete the comment, give you a warning and the next time ban your account without any chance to appeal, right? Not subreddit-level, but side-wide. And these filters are pretty aggressive.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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I don't use bluesky, but out of interest is this "intolerance" filter effectively a political filter, or an actual "intolerance" filter? Like if someone is talking about "white fragility" and being intolerant towards white people, or being xenophobic about American culture, would that be likely to result in them being flagged for intolerance also? Asking because while I don't mind the concept, I find in practice most…

It's dreadfuly simple - Bluesky users can choose what content they want to see - including selecting feeds, algorithms, moderation services etc. This situation is intolerable to people who believe that their right-wing views must be forcefully shoved down users' feeds, because not liking and not wanting to see their shitty content is considered an attack on freedom of speech.

That's not true though. If many people or the mods flag a post, other people cannot see it without clicking - it's covered by a banner. I have a new user on bsky, I never touched any configuration knob and by default I can't see certain posts. Someone decided for me.

If I were truly able to decide what I see I would see every single post as a new user. Then I would have the optuon to opt in to lists, banning / hiding other users etc.

Instead, I'm forcefully opted-in to not seeing what someone else decided I shouldn't see from the start, and I must find the way to opt out.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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They made a transphobic joke 3 times and the bluesky users that enabled their intolerance filter never saw it. What exactly is the problem? The posts weren't deleted. Nobody liked the joke because it's a bad joke.

I don't use bluesky, but out of interest is this "intolerance" filter effectively a political filter, or an actual "intolerance" filter? Like if someone is talking about "white fragility" and being intolerant towards white people, or being xenophobic about American culture, would that be likely to result in them being flagged for intolerance also? Asking because while I don't mind the concept, I find in practice most…

Maybe the only way to figure this out is to try being xenophobic about American culture on there and see if you get censored?

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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But ... they have a "Follow us on BlueSky" link that goes to bsky.app not esky.something?

Follows work independent of which app you're using, so it works either way. Not an issue.

(Think of it this way: "I am following " is a record stored in my own database, so it doesn't matter which app I click the button on that writes that record.)

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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I got banned from my local subreddit for saying “as an Asian we actually tend to like cars from this brand” in a politically charged post about a certain car brand. Didn’t seem very spicy to me. “If you support this brand you’re supporting Nazis” was allowed and upvoted, of course. On the bright side that was the impetus for me to finally stop giving my valuable attention to that site.

You almost certainly are lying and were not banned for saying that.

Why in the world would you say this to a stranger about the account of a completely mundane event? I've seen people banned from subreddits for e.g. mentioning the wrong brand names, and even worse, been happy that they were banned because those brands were not the subject of the subreddit (and were a constant distraction because mentioning them was something provocative and easy to post if you didn't really know anything about the subject.)

And you think that "asian people like this brand of car" is something so obviously impossible to be banned for that you would denigrate a stranger with zero evidence, under your own name. I'm honestly shocked by people's bravery sometimes; if this is a professional account, people reading it who know you might think less of you (and will never mention this to you.)

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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I'm left wondering if maybe all the years I spend tinkering with Linux servers and self-hosted infrastructure are just about to pay off big time now that there is a massive move for governments and institutions to take control of their infrastructure... You still pretty much need a human to spin and maintain infrastructure, wire things securely, and monitor... Now I just need to wait until someone rebrands sysop into…

Tim Berners Lee has Solid

I used to work for timbl's company Inrupt on Solid on the SDK team. Inrupt no longer appears to be doing solid (or at least it's very well hidden if it still exists).

AT Protocol achieved what Solid envisioned without the inane complexities of rdf and json-ld, which were the biggest learning blockers to people actually adopting Solid.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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"Censored" I mean "flagged", sure. In practice, they're all hidden from the casual user. But really, I'm interested on why ATProto was touted as revolutionary while in practice it powers a standalone heavily politically biased social network where moderators are extremely active flagging everything that's on the right. In that respect, Mastodon is more "revolutionary" - you handle your instance, you provide your mode…

I'm not fully aware of the tech here, are those posts flagged as 'Intolerant' by bsky or by the protocol itself?

By Bluesky.

The protocol has a notion of moderation accounts, sometimes called "labelers" because they can apply labels to your account. Users generally [1] subscribe to the moderation that they want to see. They can then set those labels to make the application to "show", "warn" (collapse by default, click to expand), or "hide" based on the labels.

1: People using the bluesky app cannot unsubscribe from the bluesky moderation service, but that is a policy choice of the bluesky app, not a protocol level choice, other clients can do as they choose.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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Joking aside, there is a lot of contract work to help EU quasi-governative entities to move off US clouds. I have been on contract for the last 18 months to recreate some functionality of AWS on top of OVH for a client adjacent to the European Space Agency. The catch is that being government contract you, the guy doing the actual work, are beneath three or four layers of companies and bureaucracy and you get over eng…

> That said, the job and economy situation is a big question mark and appetite to invest has lessened dramatically so YMMV Could you elaborate perhaps a bit more on this on actually why the appetite for investment has lessened? I'd be curious to know more, thanks!

I am no economist nor work in sales so my opinion is worthless, but it’s both waiting to see where this AI nonsense leads us, the stock market being an absolute shitshow solely propped up by this AI nonsense while the rest of Europe is in a phase of stagflation, the geopolitical situation at home and with our crazy partner, plus companies readjusting after the end of ZIRP.

Fair to say investments and new projects are a bit harder to come by.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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the only true centralized part is the did:plc registry and thats designed to be fully auditable. all canonical data is stored on your pds so if you self host that you get full control. decentralization is not about the number of app instances but how easy it is to switch from one to another. on that metric bluesky is already better than fediverse.

That’s a very narrow definition of decentralisation. In any case - both atproto and fediverse are massively centralised compared to something like Nostr, and it’s not even close. The fact that the PDS in practice owns your identity in the vast vast majority of cases is such a dumb trade off that it’s honestly laughable. Should Bluesky decide to splinter off of the network there would be like 50000 people left. Stop t…

> The fact that the PDS in practice owns your identity

This is incorrect.

1. a PDS stores data, it does not own the identity.

2. Your identity is controlled by a DID, of which most users use DID:PLC.

3. This means the PLC directory controls who owns the identity.

4. Users can upload their own keys into the directory to ensure they have control.

5. At this point, the threat vector is "PLC directory lies", which is why there are transparency logs and independent mirrors.

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