Ship to the US with GrapheneOS and I'll be first in line :)
Jolla Phone (October 2026)
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Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
They will sell in Russia when it’s legal to do so, just like every other company.
Are you talking about European companies? There are already many companies in Russia doing extremely well like Korean and Japanese companies
European or American.
Currently Russia is sanctioned so it’s illegal to do business there. If it were legal they would be straight back.
Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's still more open than AOSP I don't think this is true at all? AOSP is completely open source modulo driver blobs (which Sailfish has too) and Google services. One can make a fully functional system, modulo drivers, out of only open-source components using AOSP. It's not possible to do this using Sailfish; the compositor, UI libraries (Silica), and most of the "core" apps are still closed source.
If I remember correctly a lot of AOSP core apps have been discontinued though.
Because no one was using them. Everyone was replacing them and shipping other apps. AOSP is very modular and customizable letting you configure what apps get included in the OS.
Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
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#85750 USD? I like the idea. And appreciate all the people who support such products, so phones are getting cheaper. But no way I'm getting it for over $150. It looks really cheap, and the marketing is bad, honestly. I think these corporations have spoiled me, and I was really looking for huuuuge wow effect for $750, but it's just a Linux phone.
Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
/etc configuration instead of the insanely bad system properties crap, glibc instead of bionic (which has even worse POSIX compliance than Windows), ld instead of linker, FHS, not having a batshit insane No-Sockets rule, not needing to port software that already compiles and runs on GNU/Linux, X11/Wayland/Arcan, system services aren't entangled with Java, normal IPC mechanisms instead whatever the fuck binder is. The…
I think he was asking about advantages, not "how is it similar to a Unix system from the 80s?"
The irony you fail to realize, the differences listed in fact would be typical of a random Unix system in the 80s, where it's just a mountain of bad and random opinions stapled on top of a Unix system. Some random and half-baked libc? You got it! Some bizarre and overly convoluted greenfield filesystem structure? It's right there! Completely different and frustrating custom linker behavior? Yep!
Everything I listed was an advantage. Now see, I don't think Unix is the be-all end-all of operating systems design. I don't particularly care for Linux, the BSDs, macOS, etc. But Android is a definite regression in the strongest terms. Give me a PIMOS or Genera or Squeak phone that works well. I'll be happier than I would with a Linux phone.
Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
#87I like the idea of these new phones that might be a bit more privacy centered, and even with some different OSes but I think the biggest problem for a lot of adoption is the compatibility with things like banking apps, 2fa etc. It makes it quite an impossible daily driver thanks to some strange rules.
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Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh. I really don't see the point of this, vs something like GrapheneOS. Edit: I'm well aware of the differences between typical Linux and Android (especially the security architecture!), and I'm willing to make some sacrifices in the name of FOSS... but only if it's actually FOSS.
My xperia 10 iii was 280€(+50€ OS) vs 500€++ for a pixel. But I hate phones. All I want is navigation, sms/call, signal, steam and firefox.
The Pixel 10a is on sale for $399 on Amazon right now, and it's a far better device, and it can run GrapheneOS.
Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
#89Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)
#90Why so expensive :(