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Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by themaninthedark »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #31
zulux wrote: post #6

This idea is adorable, but ultimately untenable if either country drifts in its views on how its citizens should behave. I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns, and I suspect that the US is not quite on board with blasphemy/hurty-words laws. I suspect the divergence will grow.

"Hurty-words" Remind me again -- which country is it that demands to see the content of your social media feeds at the border, and then chooses to deport (or worse, detain) you based on what your feed says about their president and his thieving gang of companions? Or detains and deports academics with green cards based on their stated opinions about what's happening in Gaza? I could go on.

>A French-Palestinian member of the European Parliament says she was denied entry into Canada only days before she was scheduled to participate in conferences in Montreal.

>Rima Hassan wrote online that she was "prevented" from coming to Canada in what she described as an attempt at censorship.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2242739/pro-palestin...

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by nemomarx »

otikik wrote: post #61
bluGill wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Write your congressman. If congress decides the people care things will change, but when they hear nothing they don't care.

They will care more if you pay them instead, though.

Given how cheap some politicians are, a pro Canadian lobby could do wonders. If AIPAC can get so much influence for so little why not.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #71
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Canadian watching from a distance the fact that the administration and its congressional allies etc don't seem to be concerned at all about what is going to happen in November gives me a lot of apprehension about what they might know that is not being stated publicly. Midterms coming up and prosecuting an endless "war" that doubles gas prices, and not seeming concerned at all about the blowback? What's up with t…

Once you accept that Trump is literally senile, a lot of things click into place. Why does he seem unable to predict obvious consequences of the actions he takes? Why does he fixate on random mean words and repeat them with no regard for normal political strategy? Why does he randomly fall asleep on camera? When he says that he has no reason to worry because the polls show everyone loves him, I think he genuinely bel…

That's a given, but what is the excuse for Bessent and so on, who are clearly very smart. Just in a really bad way.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

themaninthedark wrote: post #81
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Hurty-words" Remind me again -- which country is it that demands to see the content of your social media feeds at the border, and then chooses to deport (or worse, detain) you based on what your feed says about their president and his thieving gang of companions? Or detains and deports academics with green cards based on their stated opinions about what's happening in Gaza? I could go on.

>A French-Palestinian member of the European Parliament says she was denied entry into Canada only days before she was scheduled to participate in conferences in Montreal. >Rima Hassan wrote online that she was "prevented" from coming to Canada in what she described as an attempt at censorship. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2242739/pro-palestin...

Yes, there's definitely bad on this side, too.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by Arubis »

GJim wrote: post #53
throwaway27448 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If congress decides the people care things will change Hah

That fatalistic attitude is why your democracy is in peril. Get off your arse and take lessons on protesting from the French.

The French have more of a social safety net, which enables extended protests. I understand the irony in stating this (well then, USian, get off your ass and demand a social safety net), but the chicken-and-egg problem is real. This is setting aside cultural mores and biases; for an example thereof, see sibling comment.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by mschuster91 »

georgeburdell wrote: post #68
pluc wrote: post #21

That's a pretty good example of US-Canada relations. That entrance isn't getting closed when the US regains its sanity. The new reality is that it exists now.

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That's bollocks, the majority of immigrants to the US come from their Southern border.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by mschuster91 »

nubinetwork wrote: post #28

Not the first time something like this has happened either. A small road in Montana/Alberta is being sectioned off because it sits on the border... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly7gl95nnpo

Truly, Trump is an inverse Midas - everything he touched turns to shit. Even if the Trump/MAGA administration goes peacefully (the fact that one has to state this as a possibility instead of a certainty is shocking enough), the Canadian road will remain, a permanent reminder of the idiocy.

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Post by jmye »

georgeburdell wrote: post #68
pluc wrote: post #21

That's a pretty good example of US-Canada relations. That entrance isn't getting closed when the US regains its sanity. The new reality is that it exists now.

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Millions from specific countries? Over decades, or do you not actually know anything about Canadian immigration?

How "often" do they "illegally immigrate to the US"? Come on, be specific. Surely this isn't absolute bullshit.

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Post by embedding-shape »

Arubis wrote: post #85
GJim wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That fatalistic attitude is why your democracy is in peril. Get off your arse and take lessons on protesting from the French.

The French have more of a social safety net, which enables extended protests. I understand the irony in stating this (well then, USian, get off your ass and demand a social safety net), but the chicken-and-egg problem is real. This is setting aside cultural mores and biases; for an example thereof, see sibling comment.

> The French have more of a social safety net, which enables extended protests

How do you think they got those in the first place though?

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by PearlRiver »

martey wrote: post #79
sowbug wrote: post #30

Related: episode 653 of 99% Invisible mentions Peace Arch Park, which is along the US-Canada border in Blaine, Washington, and Surrey, British Columbia. Anyone from either country can enter the park and mingle with people from the other country. There's supposedly strong incentive, because of a treaty from the War of 1812, for both countries to keep their side of the park open: If Canada broke the treaty, in theory,…

This is a good story, but you can read both the Treaty of Ghent (which ended the War of 1812 while keeping the US-Canada border the same) and Rush-Bagot (which restricted naval fleets on the Great Lakes and Lake Champlain). Neither document states anything about the border needing to remain open or without barriers. The podcast's transcript suggests that their source for this is https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british…

America does not want friends only vassals. Which arguably is what Canada became after the British left.
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