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US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by Scoundreller »

brightball wrote: post #37
nemomarx wrote: post #5

It's not an unfair reaction to the main entrance being closed, but it is a little sad. The northern border used to be so much more flexible and I don't see any real benefits from doing all this.

It's apparently a response due to a noticeable increase in apprehensions over the last 6 years. https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-26-107501

Funnelling “problems” to known points is better than pushing those problems to any of a bazillion other points.

But i guess ticking “we did something” checkboxes keeps the paycheck deposits flowing.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

#42

Post by Scoundreller »

buckle8017 wrote: post #38
nemomarx wrote: post #5

It's not an unfair reaction to the main entrance being closed, but it is a little sad. The northern border used to be so much more flexible and I don't see any real benefits from doing all this.

Canada allowed millions of temporary foreign workers in. Unfortunately the border actually needs to be more sealed.

These moves annoy a lot of people (or cost money) and manages to go from a 0.00000001% to a 0.000000010001% sealed border.

Once again, borders doing what they do best: waste honest people’s resources.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by throwaway27448 »

bluGill wrote: post #29
Beannation wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hope we get back to times where we were really best friends. It was good for both countries and was a model for international relationships/partnerships.

Write your congressman. If congress decides the people care things will change, but when they hear nothing they don't care.

> If congress decides the people care things will change

Hah

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by mothballed »

Scoundreller wrote: post #41
brightball wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's apparently a response due to a noticeable increase in apprehensions over the last 6 years. https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-26-107501

Funnelling “problems” to known points is better than pushing those problems to any of a bazillion other points. But i guess ticking “we did something” checkboxes keeps the paycheck deposits flowing.

Apprehensions on the northern border usually want to be found, as asylum claims. Anyone who wants to cross illegally at the northern border could easily do so since forever. So in this case the bazillion other points land in Canada, since those that wanted to illegal into the US from the North always could. That's a "win" for the US from the perspective of the administration.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

#46

Post by selectodude »

wl wrote: post #40
selectodude wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also the idea that Canada is in any way anti-gun is ludicrous.

With very few exceptions, you can’t acquire handguns in Canada anymore. They’ve also banned most semiautomatic rifles. Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.

It doesn’t take too much effort to square the idea of being fine with firearms while not being a weapon-access absolutist. I’m able to have nuanced opinions about a lot of things that have negative externalities. Like how cigarettes kick ass but so do indoor smoking bans.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

#47

Post by bluGill »

throwaway27448 wrote: post #44
bluGill wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Write your congressman. If congress decides the people care things will change, but when they hear nothing they don't care.

> If congress decides the people care things will change Hah

Midterm elections are coming up.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

wl wrote: post #40
selectodude wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also the idea that Canada is in any way anti-gun is ludicrous.

With very few exceptions, you can’t acquire handguns in Canada anymore. They’ve also banned most semiautomatic rifles. Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.

Right, so.

We're not anti-gun. Just anti the "only used explicitly for killing people" kind of gun.

I grew up and live in rural Canada. Rifles for hunting or farming are just part of life. Though the long gun registry did make them more of a hassle.

Why do you need a killing-person gun? What's that for?

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

#49

Post by stuxnet79 »

josefritzishere wrote: post #43

All of North America should have open borders like a Schengen zone. This xenophobia is bad for the economy.

Believe me an open border would do nothing but increase xenophobia. Canada is dealing with its own immigration crisis with a ton of newcomers DDoSing the overextended healthcare system and real estate market.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

selectodude wrote: post #46
wl wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With very few exceptions, you can’t acquire handguns in Canada anymore. They’ve also banned most semiautomatic rifles. Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.

It doesn’t take too much effort to square the idea of being fine with firearms while not being a weapon-access absolutist. I’m able to have nuanced opinions about a lot of things that have negative externalities. Like how cigarettes kick ass but so do indoor smoking bans.

As an occasional pipe or cigar smoker... I'm personally trying to square this "cigarettes kick ass" thing with real world experience :-)

Really? How?

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