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The fact that Putin reversed his stance and Telegram isn't banned in Russia anymore is all you need to know on his values.
It's covered in the interview. The Russian state backed off when they figured that the only way to ban Telegram is to also break large pieces of the country's digital infrastructure, because Telegram was using Cloudflare, Google Cloud, AWS, Hetzner address ranges for its proxies to evade blocking. Now, Telegram is also an important part of military communication in Russia. Probably not that often for the chain-of-com…
I'm turning 41, but I don't feel like celebrating
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's covered in the interview. The Russian state backed off when they figured that the only way to ban Telegram is to also break large pieces of the country's digital infrastructure, because Telegram was using Cloudflare, Google Cloud, AWS, Hetzner address ranges for its proxies to evade blocking. Now, Telegram is also an important part of military communication in Russia. Probably not that often for the chain-of-com…
I never believed that, there's too many coincidence with his visit to Russia and the Russian state investment in Telegram at the same time.
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#83Pavel Durov cannot be trusted. He has built his life on lies, created an opaque, highly complex network of companies, and developed a relationship with the Russian regime that is full of inconsistencies, among other things. For starters, he claimed for years that Telegram's headquarters were in Berlin, Germany, when they never were.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tjournal_refugees/comments/1k3lc02/...
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I am in Germany and I don’t need troll farms to poison my worldview. It’s enough to go to the local school where swimming pool is closed, because there is no money. It’s enough to go to all hands meeting at work to get new location in best cost country presented. It’s enough to try finding specialized doctor and realizing, that my public health insurance allows me to see the doctor in April 2026. I just don’t think i…
Yes, all of this is true. But it is also true that the poisoned discourse makes things look much worse than they really are. To reframe it: changing these bad situations is easier than it seems. It’s not easy, but many people feel as if change were impossible. I believe this feeling of hopelessness is one of the main reasons why political and financial fascists can rise. They yell that the world is falling apart and…
There are just too many objective things that can be well measured. Grocery shopping bills, utility bills, payslips. Even job ads for hardware developers like me. I quit television as a teen and newspapers during 2014 Ukraine war. The west makes ruzzian troll farms easy life.
Does democracy still work? I often provoke German colleagues and ask who voted for 5 millions new immigrants into welfare system during last 10 years. Nobody gave me positive answer. So what’s happening? Voters obviously get what they don’t want. Nobody voted for falling apart infrastructure. I started thinking about offroad suspension and tires for my car. I regularly visit my older neighbors and have a chat, old people see the same. And have statistics. They remember the years when there was no train at all. When the train run every 4 hours, when the train came every 30 minutes and when chaos started 2 decades ago. Maybe there are enough internal factors that weaken so called democratic societies and ruzzian trolls are only very minor factor. Deindustrialization in Germany can be seen on plain sight and well paid positions will never come back: https://group.mercedes-benz.com/company/news/mercedes-benz-v...
Edit: probably wrong link. Sprinter production goes to Poland. Apparently German production is too expensive.
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#85Let's take a second to remember that Pavel Durov is the CEO of a messaging company that doesn't end-to-end encrypt chats by default and does not provide a way to end-to-end encrypt group chats
He covered it in the interview in a quite reasonable way. E2E encryption, especially if forward secrecy is a requirement is incompatible with many important features: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qjPH9njnaVU&t=9583 You probably don't realize it, but multi-device support, group chats of tens of thousands of users, channels with millions of users and comments of said users. Attachments and history and search. And then a…
Small groups could likewise be supported.
I take the point that for large groups client fan out of the double ratchet doesn't scale. We now have MLS but we didn't. There's also an argument of how can you really keep a secret in an open group of a few thousand people.
But on a small, "personal" level, e2e could absolutely be done. Not doing so is a choice, one that conveniently ends with almost everyone's chats stored on servers somewhere.
I would go so far as to say I bet telegram is a goldmine for TLAs.
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At the end of the day, powerful people will still have the upper hand anywhere in the world, you're bringing up a red herring. It's not like by going for an ad hominem you automatically win back the argument.
No, but denying people the ability to express part of the human condition under reasonable circumstances is cruel.
Is it so hard to verbally destroy a person's stance on something without insulting the person itself?
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At the end of the day, powerful people will still have the upper hand anywhere in the world, you're bringing up a red herring. It's not like by going for an ad hominem you automatically win back the argument.
The CEO of that healthcare company probably thought the same thing.
Sarcasm aside, what kind of argument is that? And how is it related to what I'm saying?
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#88Who?? What's he talking about?
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No, but denying people the ability to express part of the human condition under reasonable circumstances is cruel.
Aren't you grasping at straws, at this point? The rule says: don't insult. Is it so hard to verbally destroy a person's stance on something without insulting the person itself?
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#90It should be noted that Durov does not criticize Russia, his country of citizenship and the center of much of his userbase. The Russian internet is far more controlled than the Western internet, with penalties up to and including arrest and death for expressing the wrong views. Russia also is actively invading Europe and sponsoring vast network of troll accounts which poison the discourse on the internet in Western c…
Nor does he criticise the UAE where he moved to, where of course he gave up free speech for tax benefits. I don’t blame him of course, I’d be terrified to criticise the government if I lived there too.