We’re all just temporarily abled
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Re: We’re all just temporarily abled
#82I once sat on a zoom call with a vision impaired user to do some accessibility testing on our site. First, it was enlightening for me to see how she navigated through our site using her screen reader. Second when she landed on our booking page we got so embarrassed because she couldn’t use our date picker. A basic HTML version would have done the job. But a few weeks back we had debated over which fancy jquery date p…
Re: We’re all just temporarily abled
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
My knee pain gets worse when i squat. How old are you?
Same. Can't even squat my own body weight without my knees wanting to explode. I do think weight training is important, but with physical limitations...
That goes away once the muscles gain strength.
I've had a personal trainer for years now and in my early 40s I can squat merrily with no pain. Also my neck and back pain have vanished, along with headaches I used to get that would start around the back of my neck and move over my head.
Strength training really is amazing. My only regret is 20 years as an adult not doing it.
My wife taking every excuse to touch my leg muscles is just an added bonus!
Re: We’re all just temporarily abled
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Starting Strength is not recommended anymore: https://web.archive.org/web/20200528135350/https://thefitnes...
Your comment is being downvoted because it's low quality. It's basically a drive-by hit on SS with no context. I will upvote it and add some context. * thefitness.wiki is maintained by Reddit's r/fitness and it's a great resource. * Parent had to use an archive.org link because thefitness.wiki long ago removed the post he linked to. * I suspect they removed the post because thefitness.wiki now has a 'Basic Beginner R…
Re: We’re all just temporarily abled
#85His privilege is showing more than he knows. Some people are born with disabilities. If you are lucky , you get to be temporarily abled. And oblivious to how fortunate you are until it leaves you. And then you get to gripe about "getting old" or whatever and kvetch about what you lost. Some people never had it. And never will.
Mea culpa as well. To the extent I've successfully developed empathy for disabled and marginalized people and some degree of understanding, it's mostly been because my privileged life was interrupted by injury, or something else happened to impact myself personally. I read this article on HN recently about trying to cultivate these experiences deliberately, I'd be curious what you thought of it. It seems like an inte…
From what I have read -- and this article cites the same stat -- roughly 15 to 20 percent of people self-identify as disabled. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. At least one study found that about 60 percent of people would benefit from better accommodation if you ask them if they have difficulties with X without asking them to self-identify as disabled.
Both the officially disabled and people with milder limitations get really cranky about where to draw that line. People with mild limitations often go out of their way to say they are definitely not disabled and merely have a little trouble with these things and officially disabled jealously guard the label because they need it to have any hope of making their lives work at all and don't want people who can make their lives work without that label horning in on any limited benefits available only to them or diluting what the word means.
It's a really thorny topic.
I had a class from SFSU in Homelessness and Public Policy and it has a similar exercise, like "Spend one day pretending you are homeless. Figure out how to go to the bathroom while carrying everything you own. Figure out how you will get around without a car."
And then I spent nearly six years homeless.
There are plenty of people with actual disabilities who are perfectly capable of telling you what they need if you will only listen to them. If you are unable or unwilling to listen to them and take them seriously without trying to "walk a mile in their shoes," well, sure, go ahead and try it out for a week or whatever if you think that will help you.
But sometimes all it takes is one person willing to say it over and over so you keep it in mind when it's time for you to make coding decisions or whatever. And if/when that happens, it probably won't ever get noticed, acknowledged nor appreciated.
It will promptly be forgotten like when programmers of an old, "useless" language fixed Y2K and the world did not have a global financial meltdown on January 1, 2000. We shrugged, acted like "Someone must have been wrong." and moved on to hand-wringing about the newest bad news.
I am probably the only person on the planet who sometimes goes "Thank God we aren't living in the Y2K Post Apocalypse!"
The internet has made my life as a disabled person vastly more workable. Are there things I wish were even betterer? Sure, there are and we certainly shouldn't be dismissing the completely valid complaints of anyone who can't do x because it's not designed with their needs in mind and there is no means whatsoever to get it done.
I certainly do not dismiss such people.
But perhaps it would help to understand that when they complain about, for example, the internet not working for them, part of what they are telling you is that the internet is vital to their lives and has expanded their life beyond what it likely would have been in decades past. So when it doesn't work, it's like taking away their oxygen or sunshine.
It's hard to do anything well. It's often not appreciated at all nor rewarded. Try to not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Re: We’re all just temporarily abled
#86One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…
A similar vein but muuuuch simpler for anybody who isn't up for weights. Each day, before anything else: 1. 3 mins stretching 2. 20 (real) situps (3 mins) 3. 10 pushups (2 mins) I actually usually do a good bit more exercise more than this, but this is my minimum day starting routine, no matter where I am, or what I'm doing. It takes less than 10 minutes and keeps a bare minimum of strength in your lower back and arm…
You don’t need to hit the gym for an hour to feel the results. Like parent poster is doing, body weight exercises are terrific.
I would also like to say that planks are an extremely effective exercise.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a very silly argument to be made against a lifting program which has verifiably moved countless people off the couch and into resistance training. The reason people recommend Starting Strength is because it's what successfully got them into lifting . I train 5/3/1 now, I have for years, I love it, and I absolutely do not recommend it to beginners. I've tried. Their eyes glaze over when you start talking about…
I did SS too in the beginning. I didn't see much progress and that has also been verifiably the case for others too, if you are using anecdotes as your verification process. That SS works is despite its quality, not because of it. And so what? Should we not try to improve programs just because they work in some cases? We don't have to use 5/3/1 then, we can use even the basic beginner routine as recommended on r/fitn…
I tried to start lifting multiple times. SL 5x5 is what actually made it click. Now that I know what I'm doing, I could write volumes on its flaws, but what I needed wasn't a technically optimized program, but one which gave me a clear goal for each workout and an easy way to see what the path forward looked like.
As the reddit beginner program correctly notes:
> The primary goal is to be a simple, easy to follow routine that will help beginners get into the gym, start training with the standard barbell lifts, and build a habit of going to the gym consistently. Consistency over time is the biggest point of failure in making progress, and the aim is to lower the barrier as far as possible to starting and staying consistent.
The point of a beginner program really isn't the volume moved or optimizing the particular split, but to give the beginner a structure on which to build routine and learn good habits. It helps no one to crap on Starting Strength, when it has an established history of achieving exactly that goal. Offering things like the reddit program as a potentially superior alternative is fine to the eager newbie, but telling people that Starting Strength is a bad way to start is just counterproductive.
My advice to every new lifter is that the best program for them is the one that gets them going back to the gym consistently, and I'll continue to stand behind that. It's not SS for everyone - and that's fine. But it is SS for a lot of people, and that's also fine.
Re: We’re all just temporarily abled
#88His privilege is showing more than he knows. Some people are born with disabilities. If you are lucky , you get to be temporarily abled. And oblivious to how fortunate you are until it leaves you. And then you get to gripe about "getting old" or whatever and kvetch about what you lost. Some people never had it. And never will.
I feel very conflicted when seeing young people who are out of shape. They have the best possible potential for increasing fitness due to fast recovery. An investment that pays massive dividends in a very very short time. A fit body pays back on so many levels it is a paradox why would anyone not be fit.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I 100% agree. You mention some pretty scary KG numbers there though (but we’ll done)! I just wanted to mention to readers that even squatting a ‘measly’ 50KG or deadlifting 30KG can immensely help with back pain and the physical challenges everyday life throws at you.
> You mention some pretty scary KG numbers there > I just wanted to mention to readers that even squatting a ‘measly’ 50KG or deadlifting 30KG Yes -- this is really important to contextualize. Barbell resistance training is actually two things: 1) A method of exercise that has a variety of well-quantified health benefits including improvements in strength, bone density, and connective tissue. More muscle also means y…
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#90This reminded me of 5 daily remembrances from Buddhist cannon. 1. I am sure to become old; I cannot avoid ageing. 2. I am sure to become ill; I cannot avoid illness. 3. I am sure to die; I cannot avoid death. 4. I must be separated and parted from all that is dear and beloved to me. 5. I am the owner of my actions, heir of my actions, actions are the womb (from which I have sprung), actions are my relations, actions…