Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

We’re all just temporarily abled

blog.jim-nielsen.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 537 posts

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#41

Post by nathias »

satvikpendem wrote: post #18
tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

Starting Strength is not recommended anymore: https://web.archive.org/web/20200528135350/https://thefitnes...

I wouldn't trust anything on reddit...

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#42

Post by iamphilrae »

tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

I 100% agree. You mention some pretty scary KG numbers there though (but we’ll done)! I just wanted to mention to readers that even squatting a ‘measly’ 50KG or deadlifting 30KG can immensely help with back pain and the physical challenges everyday life throws at you.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#43

Post by gloryjulio »

satvikpendem wrote: post #18
tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

Starting Strength is not recommended anymore: https://web.archive.org/web/20200528135350/https://thefitnes...

Just add sledgehammer workout to the routine. It's the foundation of all combat sports. You have your core strength, upper body strength, arm strength well trained.

And it's infinitely fun to hit stuff

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#45

Post by satvikpendem »

nathias wrote: post #41
satvikpendem wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starting Strength is not recommended anymore: https://web.archive.org/web/20200528135350/https://thefitnes...

I wouldn't trust anything on reddit...

I would. For example, /r/AskHistorians is extremely high quality. Don't mistake a forum for all of its users as one monolith.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#46

Post by safety1st »

satvikpendem wrote: post #18
tastysandwich wrote: post #6

One of the best things I ever did was get strong through a basic barbell training program called Starting Strength. Squat, deadlift, overhead press, bench press, chinups, eat, sleep. It really is that easy. Highly recommend it for anyone interested. 1. Any back pain I had disappeared completely. 2. When I have to lift something awkward (eg, furniture), I don't injure myself. If you can deadlift 200KG, awkwardly leani…

Starting Strength is not recommended anymore: https://web.archive.org/web/20200528135350/https://thefitnes...

Your comment is being downvoted because it's low quality. It's basically a drive-by hit on SS with no context.

I will upvote it and add some context.

* thefitness.wiki is maintained by Reddit's r/fitness and it's a great resource.

* Parent had to use an archive.org link because thefitness.wiki long ago removed the post he linked to.

* I suspect they removed the post because thefitness.wiki now has a 'Basic Beginner Routine' which is similar to Starting Strength, and tells you this is what you should start with. https://thefitness.wiki/routines/r-fitness-basic-beginner-ro...

* I've done both BBR and SS. I prefer BBR but they're both fine places to start. They both basically have you cycle through the staple compound lifts and if you're not already trained this is the best thing you can do for your body. The health benefits of simply doing each compound lift at least once a week plus eating a ton of protein cannot be overstated, they are life changing.

* I'll editorialize here but I feel both BBR and SS are designed for younger, fitter, more hardcore "beginners" than me, especially SS. I was a 40+, out of shape desk jockey and the cadence at which they want you to increase weight was too much for me. Also with these big lifts you NEED to get the technique right or you WILL hurt yourself.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#47

Post by kaba0 »

rob74 wrote: post #10
sublinear wrote: post #2

> I injured my knee. Now imagine if your job wasn't sitting at a desk all day! Actually let's be honest, a sedentary lifestyle makes injuries like this more likely.

I thought about that when I read this in the blog post: > ...and tried something that, looking back now, maybe I’m too old for I don't know how old he is (not that old judging by the photo, but maybe it's an old photo?), and I don't know what he tried to do, but thinking like that is a slippery slope. Regular exercise is more important when growing older, not less - otherwise, you might become disabled because of you…

I think you assume way too much out of this: The way I usually hear this expression is like "I have tried to do a backflip, failed and broke my arm", or so. So the blog writer likely did something way out of his league, like a fancy trick, and it is not a fair assumption to think that he lives such a sedentary lifestyle that any kind of movement would cause him harm, or even thinks that way. One can be very sporty, yet do some stupid one-off movement that will cause harm.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#48

Post by DoreenMichele »

His privilege is showing more than he knows. Some people are born with disabilities. If you are lucky, you get to be temporarily abled.

And oblivious to how fortunate you are until it leaves you. And then you get to gripe about "getting old" or whatever and kvetch about what you lost.

Some people never had it. And never will.

Re: We’re all just temporarily abled

#49

Post by cheald »

satvikpendem wrote: post #37
cheald wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It still doesn't change the fact that a suboptimal program which keeps beginners engaged and moving forward is infinitely superior to a more complex one that they fall off of.

It does actually. The program is so poor that beginners might not even see enough progress that they're put off from working out, because "what's the point if I've been at it for a month or three and still don't have any gains?" That's why it's better to actually pick a good program, one that shows consistent gains as motivation rather than plateauing as a demotivational force. Other recommended programs like 5/3/1 a…

This is a very silly argument to be made against a lifting program which has verifiably moved countless people off the couch and into resistance training. The reason people recommend Starting Strength is because it's what successfully got them into lifting.

I train 5/3/1 now, I have for years, I love it, and I absolutely do not recommend it to beginners. I've tried. Their eyes glaze over when you start talking about "training maxes" and "periodization". They get confused and lose whatever sliver of motivation they had. Save the optimization for when they're bought in. Any beginner is gonna make progress on essentially any structured program just due to neuroadaptation. Premature optimization is the root of all evil.

Post reply on HN