Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

Post by viburnum » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 6:29 AM UTC

JohnBooty wrote: post #69

tedk-42 wrote: post #57

Article is a bit of a joke. Honestly we should be able to control a car with that degree of freedom. I'm a big for of smaller steering wheels that are out of the way. They use to make sense when you needed to apply lots of torque manually (aka no power steering) but gone are those days. > For example, if you lose control on an icy road, it could be harder to do some quick maneuvers to regain control. No F1 driver is…

> No F1 driver is winning a world championship with a wheel and not a yoke. The statement in the article is incorrect. The yoke actually makes it easier to do quick moves but in icy conditions that's not what you want. This is a misunderstanding. The steering ratios on F1 cars are way, way tighter. They never have to turn the wheel more than a few degrees during a race and aren't turning the yoke more than a few degr…

Post by Grazester » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 6:58 AM UTC

Lendal wrote: post #22

It wasn't the shape of the wheel that was the problem. It was the unasked-for capacitive-touch turn signal buttons located on the left side of the wheel, instead of a turn-signal lever. The round wheel keeps those useless buttons, so is not a solution to the problem. You still have to use your left thumb to pick between these two buttons. They don't push in, have no feedback and they are often unresponsive, especiall…

Post by Dalewyn » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 7:23 AM UTC

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #79

checker wrote: post #63

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Marques Brownlee (MKBHD) mentioned that his right capacitive turn signal button is occasionally unresponsive with his Model S Plaid and he's had to resort to lane changes without a turn signal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34VZzBWBDN0&t=648s Granted, this is one anecdotal case. But when spending over 100K on a car, features like this should be bullet-proof. Actually ... scratch that. Features like this should be bu…

Features like these should be bulletproof because they pose a serious safety hazard. Safety features should be priority number one for any car manufacturer. You can ship with a crappy infotainment system but please don’t screw around with basic safety.

Post by sometimes_all » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 7:57 AM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #86

devnulll wrote: post #32

I have 20k miles driving a Model S with a Yoke. While I'm not a huge fan, the yoke itself is only part of the problem. The bigger problems are: 1. The capacitive buttons for turn signals. They are dangerous. They require taking eyes from the road, offer no feedback, and are honestly dangerous. 2. The horn. It's not in the middle. It's off to the side as a no-feedback capacitive button. Every time I've needed to use t…

Jesus the capacitive touch signaling is astoundingly stupid. The horn, though. In decades of driving, I've used my horn maybe once or twice.

Post by renewiltord » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 8:04 AM UTC

sometimes_all wrote: post #87

renewiltord wrote: post #86

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Jesus the capacitive touch signaling is astoundingly stupid. The horn, though. In decades of driving, I've used my horn maybe once or twice.

Here in India we have to use horns twice a minute. If they want to sell cars in the developing world, they better make their inputs tactile or people won’t buy them.