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Im totally A-ok with arresting people disrupting a funeral. Like sessh. These are people too. Let them have a funeral, you can protest them afterwards.
They aren’t being arrested for being anti-monarchy though. They are being arrested for being rude about it. Was the fella on radio 4 who stated to the entire nation that ‘King Charles and his family should be put in a council house and that the Monarchy should be abolished’ arrested? No. If you are going to attend a funeral, any funeral, be it the Queen’s or anyone else’s and hurl abuse or hold up signs with obscenit…
Oh ok. Does that mean if we ask nicely we can dissolve the monarchy?
When it comes to government-sponsored situations, free speech is very broad in the United States.
The OP is a good example to point to when people act like the US isn't special for its Constitution.
> The new law allows police to act in cases which they deem to be "unjustifiably noisy protests that may have a significant impact on others" or seriously disrupt an organization's activities. Doesn't take a political science degree to see what's wrong with this law. When cops get to decide what is a justifiably loud protest and what isn't you no longer have the right to protest. Protests are meant to disrupt, if you…
Protests are not meant to disrupt. They are meant to convince your fellow citizens of your position. Being a disruptive $#@t, not only defeats that purpose, it actually causes more people to vote against you. Moreover, emotionally driven teenagers (or stunted "adults") use these protests as a pubescent venting mechanism to smash business and mistreat adults they encounter, like some narcissistic violent therapy sessi…
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So? the US is a weird, barely functioning, democracy. Why would anyone want to emulate it?
Not arresting protestors is probably a good thing to emulate regardless of your feelings about the US.
Protests should be allowed, but it's not an absolute god given right - if you're being a dick, destroying public property, advocating violence or hate - then no, you shouldn't be allowed to protest. I know in America you let even neo nazis march your streets and boast how that's "freedom" but that's not freedom - that's blindly following certain ideology(freedom to do anything AT ALL costs) without any consideration as to what that does to your society.
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But this is a case in the UK. They have different laws and observe different decorum. Even in the US I would think protesting a funeral to be in extremely poor taste, no matter the target. What’s that Latin phrase about the recently dead?
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/03/02/134194791...
> The new law allows police to act in cases which they deem to be "unjustifiably noisy protests that may have a significant impact on others" or seriously disrupt an organization's activities. Doesn't take a political science degree to see what's wrong with this law. When cops get to decide what is a justifiably loud protest and what isn't you no longer have the right to protest. Protests are meant to disrupt, if you…
Protests are not meant to disrupt. They are meant to convince your fellow citizens of your position. Being a disruptive $#@t, not only defeats that purpose, it actually causes more people to vote against you. Moreover, emotionally driven teenagers (or stunted "adults") use these protests as a pubescent venting mechanism to smash business and mistreat adults they encounter, like some narcissistic violent therapy sessi…
For all its faults, I love the US. I can go downtown with a sign that says "Not my president", and I may get some cheers, may get some boos. What I won't get is arrested. This is true no matter who is president. Now, if I were saying this about President Harris, say, when she came to visit Biden's body while it was lying in state, that would be deplorable taste. It would be worse if my sign criticized Biden while his…
Not too long ago: (Anti-war protesters arrested and beaten in Russia) https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60641749
And i suspect the US will follow the UK in the upcoming midterm election, 2024 is shaping up to be very interesting too
Democracy is taking a huge hit in the west
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So? the US is a weird, barely functioning, democracy. Why would anyone want to emulate it?
Not arresting protestors is probably a good thing to emulate regardless of your feelings about the US.
I generally like the right to protest, but i dont want 100% free for all.