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Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by lostgame »

pengaru wrote: post #39
brtkdotse wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-C transfers power as well. Are you really using cds and floppies in the year of our lord 2020, or are you just strawmanning?

Burning cds/dvds is still a very convenient and dense affordable form of offline storage for backups and/or content hoarding.

Really? With the cost of SD cards what they are? Like, I can get a 128GB SD card for $30.

That would be 170 CD’s - nearly 30 DVD’s - which will eventually suffer disc rot.

DVD/CD write speeds are very slow, comparatively speaking to even USB 2.0 transfer speeds - and increasing the speed, in my experience, makes exact copies of discs extremely error-prone.

Explain how this is efficient? Genuinely curious, with the price of solid state storage these days.

(I understand even solid state storage has a shelf life, but at least it also can’t be so easily harmed as a CD/DVD)

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by kvark »

fladrif wrote: post #32
kvark wrote: post #29

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Heh, I was hoping for the same, but in reality I get sleep issues quite often, subpar battery life, and overall unpolished experience... on AMD with Ubuntu.

Which AMD cpu was this? And what version of Ubuntu were you running?

It's with Ryzen 3500U on Ubuntu 19.10, no fancy configuration.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

#83

Post by lostgame »

westoque wrote: post #66
lostgame wrote: post #21

ThinkPads make better MacBook Pros than Apple-official products - by far and large. I’ve got a 2017 MacBook Pro and a 2016 Lenovo ThinkPad and the ThinkPad runs circles around it. It’s also literally a hybrid drawing tablet laptop running MacOS - so unimaginably useful as a creative - and something Apple doesn’t offer, unless you want half-baked iOS software (no Illustrator, no Animate, no Blender) on an iPad Pro. Ev…

> Forgot to mention the #1 benefit - replaceable HDD/SSD and upgradable RAM. Also this. I just bought a new 16" Macbook Pro because I just maxed out the SSD in my 2015 Macbook Pro due to all the Docker images and generally all the data that I have. It was running perfectly and I wouldn't even think about upgrading if the storage was upgradable. The next best thing to buy an upgrade kit from iFixit and spend some prec…

Fortunately with the 2015 models, this is still an option. For anything past that - you’re just SOL.

At this point, 2015 models are actually going for insane values second-hand; fans understand this may be the last great laptop Apple ever makes - from the ports (built-in HDMI and SD card slots!), to the keyboard, to the ability to replace the SSD post-market - people are already certainly catching on.

I seriously shake my head every time I think about it. It blows my mind. Think about the environmental waste. :( Shameful.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

aortega wrote: post #72
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #52

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They're not all gorgeous - 1080p displays with pretty poor color gamut are the default, and they still offer comically bad 1366x768 options for a base model. But some models do have 2560x1440 IPS glossy, 3480x2160 IPS anti-glare, or 3840x2160 OLED displays with 400/500 nit brightness and decent color gamut coverage (100% Adobe or 100% DCI, depending on the model). Check http://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/i_pdf/Think…

> they still offer comically bad 1366x768 options for a base model. Believe it or not, there are still corporate legacy apps that run on DOS and looks great on 1366x768 and look like crap in 4k. In fact, Linux still look like crap in 4K today.

I can believe that there are corporate legacy apps might look bad on 4k - you might not even be able to do a naive 1:4 upscale if it's forced to be full-screen. But I wouldn't optimize my display experience for that.

However, I'm going to have to disagree strongly with your latter statement: Linux looks great in 4K. I'm running Ubuntu 19.10 to an external 4k monitor from a T430 right now (native display is a 1600x900 TN unit, which kind of sucks) and it looks great. I've had no significant aliasing or other problems.

Even Windows guests with Virtualbox scaling look good. You could easily use that to run corporate legacy apps, and probably should, knowing the stability and installation difficulties associated with legacy apps.. a .vmdk is probably much easier to version and distribute!

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by aortega »

asveikau wrote: post #59
lostgame wrote: post #21

ThinkPads make better MacBook Pros than Apple-official products - by far and large. I’ve got a 2017 MacBook Pro and a 2016 Lenovo ThinkPad and the ThinkPad runs circles around it. It’s also literally a hybrid drawing tablet laptop running MacOS - so unimaginably useful as a creative - and something Apple doesn’t offer, unless you want half-baked iOS software (no Illustrator, no Animate, no Blender) on an iPad Pro. Ev…

> Forgot to mention the #1 benefit - replaceable HDD/SSD and upgradable RAM. Need to capture this rant here about part selection. My x1 carbon 6th gen shipped with a crappy SSD which showed random errors in dmesg and would occasionally cause the machine to reboot randomly. Then a few weeks ago after about a year of use it totally died. I googled the model number of the drive and found I was not the only one to experi…

The X1 is a work of art. The lightest, tinnest laptop and is also one of the easiest to upgrade. Except for RAM...that would make it perfect.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by JoachimSchipper »

lordleft wrote: post #24

I love thinkpads but I wish one came with a decent mobile gaming gpu. I guess that's not at all the audience the thinkpads are for though.

The Thinkpad X1 Extreme comes with a NVIDIA GTX1650, which isn't bad. The X1 Extreme isn't exactly a budget model, of course...

(Lenovo also sells Legion laptops, which are more gaming machines. But not Thinkpads.)

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by nwallin »

6d6b73 wrote: post #16
eropple wrote: post #13

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Why is it "ridiculous" to use a 10Gbps (or 40Gbps if you're spendy) bus to carry data? 'Cause I just sit down, plug any of my laptops (all of which have USB-C in, and everything just works. Windows, Linux, Macs (n.b.: this required a bit of a hack because they don't support MST, but it's not a huge deal)--sit down, go. Vendor-locked lower-bandwidth docking ports are an antipattern.

Because I can lock my laptop to the docking station, because it can also transfer power, and gives me access to many more ports than regular usb based docking station has.. and back in the good ol' days you could have a docking station with such ancient devices like cdrom and floppy - something that I don't need to carry around, but would be nice if I could access while sitting at my desk.

I think you need to take a second look at USB-C docking stations.

The one I use at work delivers power, has five USB-A ports, four monitor ports (pretty sure it doesn't support using all four at the same time, haven't tried) a thunderbolt port, and a headphone jack.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by eropple »

nwallin wrote: post #87
6d6b73 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I can lock my laptop to the docking station, because it can also transfer power, and gives me access to many more ports than regular usb based docking station has.. and back in the good ol' days you could have a docking station with such ancient devices like cdrom and floppy - something that I don't need to carry around, but would be nice if I could access while sitting at my desk.

I think you need to take a second look at USB-C docking stations. The one I use at work delivers power, has five USB-A ports, four monitor ports (pretty sure it doesn't support using all four at the same time, haven't tried) a thunderbolt port, and a headphone jack.

Minor thing: that'd be a Thunderbolt dock, not USB-C. And, funny enough, that is the biggest problem with USB-C: sometimes it's not actually USB-C!

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by KSS42 »

zelly wrote: post #15
nextos wrote: post #8

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The T495s is already AMD and quite good and cheap.

I use this. I like it. Upgraded the SSD and added the motherboard max of 32G RAM. If you are using Linux on a laptop, you have a choice between dealing with NVIDIA's proprietary garbage or bad integrated graphics. AMD GPU on a laptop is a godsend.

Are you sure you use T495s?

T495s -> max 16 GB T495 -> max 32 GB.

I use the T495s and it is a great laptop. It is slighter thinner/lighter than the T495.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Post by pengaru »

lostgame wrote: post #81
pengaru wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Burning cds/dvds is still a very convenient and dense affordable form of offline storage for backups and/or content hoarding.

Really? With the cost of SD cards what they are? Like, I can get a 128GB SD card for $30. That would be 170 CD’s - nearly 30 DVD’s - which will eventually suffer disc rot. DVD/CD write speeds are very slow, comparatively speaking to even USB 2.0 transfer speeds - and increasing the speed, in my experience, makes exact copies of discs extremely error-prone. Explain how this is efficient? Genuinely curious, with the pr…

SD cards are not intended for long-term archival purposes, not 10+ years. They don't go bad per se, but the data on them may not be readable after slowly discharging offline in cold storage for a decade or more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rot#In_storage

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