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Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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Hopefully they will have some Thinkpads with regular docking station not this ridiculous cable based solution everyone is trying to push now.

Why is it "ridiculous" to use a 10Gbps (or 40Gbps if you're spendy) bus to carry data?

'Cause I just sit down, plug any of my laptops (all of which have USB-C in, and everything just works. Windows, Linux, Macs (n.b.: this required a bit of a hack because they don't support MST, but it's not a huge deal)--sit down, go.

Vendor-locked lower-bandwidth docking ports are an antipattern.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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post #10

Hopefully they will have some Thinkpads with regular docking station not this ridiculous cable based solution everyone is trying to push now.

It's better than when everyone was trying to sell port extenders as "docking stations", even though they don't support power to the laptop.

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Can't wait to see those AMD ThinkPads and I sure hope they also have AMD graphics.

The T495s is already AMD and quite good and cheap.

I use this. I like it. Upgraded the SSD and added the motherboard max of 32G RAM. If you are using Linux on a laptop, you have a choice between dealing with NVIDIA's proprietary garbage or bad integrated graphics. AMD GPU on a laptop is a godsend.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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post #13
post #10

Hopefully they will have some Thinkpads with regular docking station not this ridiculous cable based solution everyone is trying to push now.

Why is it "ridiculous" to use a 10Gbps (or 40Gbps if you're spendy) bus to carry data? 'Cause I just sit down, plug any of my laptops (all of which have USB-C in, and everything just works. Windows, Linux, Macs (n.b.: this required a bit of a hack because they don't support MST, but it's not a huge deal)--sit down, go. Vendor-locked lower-bandwidth docking ports are an antipattern.

Because I can lock my laptop to the docking station, because it can also transfer power, and gives me access to many more ports than regular usb based docking station has.. and back in the good ol' days you could have a docking station with such ancient devices like cdrom and floppy - something that I don't need to carry around, but would be nice if I could access while sitting at my desk.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it "ridiculous" to use a 10Gbps (or 40Gbps if you're spendy) bus to carry data? 'Cause I just sit down, plug any of my laptops (all of which have USB-C in, and everything just works. Windows, Linux, Macs (n.b.: this required a bit of a hack because they don't support MST, but it's not a huge deal)--sit down, go. Vendor-locked lower-bandwidth docking ports are an antipattern.

Because I can lock my laptop to the docking station, because it can also transfer power, and gives me access to many more ports than regular usb based docking station has.. and back in the good ol' days you could have a docking station with such ancient devices like cdrom and floppy - something that I don't need to carry around, but would be nice if I could access while sitting at my desk.

Lock your laptop to your desk, if you're so inclined.

My Lenovo TB3 dock has two DisplayPort outputs, two HDMI outputs, Gigabit, a 3.5mm jack, 5 USB3 ports, and a USB-C port. It can also daisy-chain Thunderbolt 3 to another high-bandwidth device; I haven't tried it with a PCIe dock or anything, but in that kind of extremity my X1 Extreme has a second TB3 port onboard anyway.

And USB-C PD can charge my X1 Extreme--not as fast as the dedicated 135W charger, but a less hungry laptop charges rapidly.

What more do you want? What are you missing?

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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post #16
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it "ridiculous" to use a 10Gbps (or 40Gbps if you're spendy) bus to carry data? 'Cause I just sit down, plug any of my laptops (all of which have USB-C in, and everything just works. Windows, Linux, Macs (n.b.: this required a bit of a hack because they don't support MST, but it's not a huge deal)--sit down, go. Vendor-locked lower-bandwidth docking ports are an antipattern.

Because I can lock my laptop to the docking station, because it can also transfer power, and gives me access to many more ports than regular usb based docking station has.. and back in the good ol' days you could have a docking station with such ancient devices like cdrom and floppy - something that I don't need to carry around, but would be nice if I could access while sitting at my desk.

Thunderbolt port on ThinkPads supports charging and any device - it's a PCIe bus after all.

Re: ThinkPads 2020 - X13 AMD - X1 Nano?

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post #16
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it "ridiculous" to use a 10Gbps (or 40Gbps if you're spendy) bus to carry data? 'Cause I just sit down, plug any of my laptops (all of which have USB-C in, and everything just works. Windows, Linux, Macs (n.b.: this required a bit of a hack because they don't support MST, but it's not a huge deal)--sit down, go. Vendor-locked lower-bandwidth docking ports are an antipattern.

Because I can lock my laptop to the docking station, because it can also transfer power, and gives me access to many more ports than regular usb based docking station has.. and back in the good ol' days you could have a docking station with such ancient devices like cdrom and floppy - something that I don't need to carry around, but would be nice if I could access while sitting at my desk.

USB-C transfers power as well.

Are you really using cds and floppies in the year of our lord 2020, or are you just strawmanning?

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