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Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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This go around, "Hey, it's not like it's a total body scan." Next year, "I did a total body scan at the Amazon Outlet and Care Center and got a free year of Amazon Prime." Next next year, "The Amazon chip implant was totally painless and I got an account credit of 100 Bezos Bucks." Next decade, "Alabama is the only state I'm not allowed to marry Alexa."

s/not allowed to marry/not allowed to not marry/

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

#82

This is honestly frustrating to see whenever massive corporations are responsible for creating a deal in which users will be given away data in order to receive a small compensation. Data, especially personal data should not be a means in which anyone can make any sort of financial compensation from. personal data is stolen every day and used against individuals - and by creating a means in which more people will giv…

I am A-OK with this. I don't want random companies using my data for whatever nefarious purpose they want, silently, without my consent. However, given a price, a user (of the data), and a choice, works for me.

A one time $10 off of a $50 purchase by the beginning of August and through that application should be such a low price point we laugh at it.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

#83

This go around, "Hey, it's not like it's a total body scan." Next year, "I did a total body scan at the Amazon Outlet and Care Center and got a free year of Amazon Prime." Next next year, "The Amazon chip implant was totally painless and I got an account credit of 100 Bezos Bucks." Next decade, "Alabama is the only state I'm not allowed to marry Alexa."

"Bezos Bucks" I find this hilarious and disturbingly real at the same time

http://backtothefuturemuseum.com/it/back-to-the-future-ii/10...

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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I am A-OK with this. I don't want random companies using my data for whatever nefarious purpose they want, silently, without my consent. However, given a price, a user (of the data), and a choice, works for me.

A one time $10 off of a $50 purchase by the beginning of August and through that application should be such a low price point we laugh at it.

> should be such a low price point we laugh at it

Let the market decide the price

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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The other side of this is people paying a premium to subsidize other unsafe drivers.

Well, more precisely, people who care about privacy more than price paying a premium to subsidize anyone with the opposite priority. That only loosely correlates with driver safety, especially since a bad claims history has an independent impact on price.

Assuming it only loosely correlates, then the premium difference between a driver opting into tracking will be small compared to those opting out.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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First sale doctrine allows the purchaser to resell their purchase, which is the opposite of what you are suggesting.

You can resell a copyrighted book, but you can't make copies and sell those. Presumably kpU8efre7r is thinking of something similar - which would obviously make life hard for companies like Equifax.

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Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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I think it is a step forward to pay users for data. Of course, amazon still collects everything it can anyway, for free. But in principle, this is good. But two things. 1. What is the correct price? Amazon is doing this to better discriminate customers on offerings, price and quality. It's essentially the sophisticated version of what econ 101 calls "siphoning off the consumer surplus by price discrimination". At thi…

I don't find it a step forward at all. It's a move toward pricing out the privacy-conscious. Right now, auto insurers in Canada will give you a premium reduction if you let them spy on you as you drive. But what happens when that becomes the norm? People end up paying a premium to not be spied on. Eventually privacy becomes unaffordable.

I would say this is only tangentially related to the real issue, which is how collected data is used.

There is a huge difference between the scenario you describe, where a company is using your data in an attempt to help you improve your life (save money). vs. A company who takes your data and uses it for profit-generating endeavors that you did not willfully consent to.

Re: Amazon offers $10 to Prime Day shoppers who hand over their data

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I think it is a step forward to pay users for data. Of course, amazon still collects everything it can anyway, for free. But in principle, this is good. But two things. 1. What is the correct price? Amazon is doing this to better discriminate customers on offerings, price and quality. It's essentially the sophisticated version of what econ 101 calls "siphoning off the consumer surplus by price discrimination". At thi…

I think this is just a perceived prisoners dilemma where you don’t actually win if you cooperate. What people probably think: If I install the plugin, Amazon can always beat the target and walmart price for me. The reality: this lets Amazon increase their prices on cheaper goods to within a tiny fraction of what walmart and target offer, and also build a psychological model of the consumer to charge a bit more depend…

Prisoners dilemma also works with appropriately sized losses, which is what this is.
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