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P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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This looks like their last line of attack they created https://www.gilletteshaveclub.com (Whois shows this site was created 23rd April 2015).

The most expensive way to buy blades ever... Mach3 Turbo: $3.50/blade ($2.09 on Amazon S&S). Fusion: $4.50/blade ($3.17 on Amazon S&S). ProGlide: $4.90/blade ($2.61 on Amazon S&S). And since I am comparing it to Amazon's Subscribe & Save, both include delivery and the same level of convenience.

Or you could go the DE safety razor route and pay $0.08/blade for 100 Derby Extras. Cartridge shaving just seems so expensive and wasteful to me...

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I assume by "old fashioned" you mean a safety razor, not a straight razor. Safety razors are indeniably cheaper long term (although expect to pay $100 ish to get a good handle, brush, bowl, blades, and soap). You'll likely break even after ten years (assuming $1.50 cartridges Vs. 10c blades). You'll also likely receive a closer shave with a safety razor. That being said... I did the whole safety razor thing. It was f…

I guess I'm lucky that my skin must not be very sensitive... I use a moderately priced safety razor handle ~$40-50 4 or 5 years ago and store brand menthol shaving foam. Old school Barbasol type foam. I rarely ever get ingrown hairs and have never had razor burn. What I did do, though, was basically buy one of every brand of blade that was available on Amazon and find the one that was the most comfortable, and now I…

> What I did do, though, was basically buy one of every brand of blade that was available on Amazon

For those interested, there is a service for this very thing now: http://www.tryablade.com/blade

Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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post #81

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The most expensive way to buy blades ever... Mach3 Turbo: $3.50/blade ($2.09 on Amazon S&S). Fusion: $4.50/blade ($3.17 on Amazon S&S). ProGlide: $4.90/blade ($2.61 on Amazon S&S). And since I am comparing it to Amazon's Subscribe & Save, both include delivery and the same level of convenience.

Or you could go the DE safety razor route and pay $0.08/blade for 100 Derby Extras. Cartridge shaving just seems so expensive and wasteful to me...

Or buy a straight edge razor, a strope and a stone, and be done for the rest of your life. There's something to be said about shaving with a sharp blade every single time!

Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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post #81

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Or you could go the DE safety razor route and pay $0.08/blade for 100 Derby Extras. Cartridge shaving just seems so expensive and wasteful to me...

Or buy a straight edge razor, a strope and a stone, and be done for the rest of your life. There's something to be said about shaving with a sharp blade every single time!

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic, but double-edged razors are similar in time and effort to cartridge razors. Straight edges are, however, substantially more demanding in not cutting yourself and in maintenance. (I switched from cartridge to double-edged a year ago and found them about the same, after having looked at straight edge and decided they were too intimidating.)

Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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> Cartridges are quick and easy. They're the ultimate lazy man's solution. They're the penultimate solution. Not shaving is the ultimate in laziness. Which I adopted, both to saves time, and because it makes me look closer to my age.

There are some occupations where that is not an option.

Certainly. And to each his own for facial hair preference.

I was simply pointing out the ultimate in laziness is to not shave at all.

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I assume by "old fashioned" you mean a safety razor, not a straight razor. Safety razors are indeniably cheaper long term (although expect to pay $100 ish to get a good handle, brush, bowl, blades, and soap). You'll likely break even after ten years (assuming $1.50 cartridges Vs. 10c blades). You'll also likely receive a closer shave with a safety razor. That being said... I did the whole safety razor thing. It was f…

I find that the thick lather isn't really the issue. The issue for me is that I need something slick directly on the skin. A good shaving soap will have fats in it that do this job, whereas a cheap shaving foam/gel will not. You can spend 5 minutes (cannot imagine needing 10) getting a good foam from a shaving soap, or you can be lazy and slap some moisturizing lotion directly on the skin and then follow it up with s…

Try a soap stick like Erasmic or Arko. You rub the soap into your beard, then lather on your face. It's more convenient than lathering in a bowl and helps to lift the hair and fully coat it with lather. The soaps I mentioned are very cheap, but they're tallow based and give a very rich and oily lather.

Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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Or buy a straight edge razor, a strope and a stone, and be done for the rest of your life. There's something to be said about shaving with a sharp blade every single time!

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic, but double-edged razors are similar in time and effort to cartridge razors. Straight edges are, however, substantially more demanding in not cutting yourself and in maintenance. (I switched from cartridge to double-edged a year ago and found them about the same, after having looked at straight edge and decided they were too intimidating.)

Straight edge razors are kind of like cast iron pans: there is a little more upkeep, but the amount needed is blown out of proportion by enthusiasts on the internet. For myself (with corse hair) upkeep means a minute of stropping before every use, a couple of minutes on a pasted strop every other weekend or so, and a barber's hone once or twice a year. It's certainly more upkeep than anything with a replaceable blade, but I don't find it too onerous; actually, I take pride and satisfaction in maintaining my tools so the time spent is worth it to me. As to cutting oneself, I can count on one hand the number of times I've nicked myself in 20ish years with a straight razor.

Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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It says on that site they are only a distributor. They probably aren't moving enough units for Gillette to care about them. DSC on the other hand...

No, you can order directly from Dorco USA and get their razors shipped to your door. I've done it, and the single price points and "add to cart" buttons should make that clear too. :) "Distributor" might be a mistranslation or imprecisely phrased.

OR "Dorco USA" is a small US based distributor that licenses their name from the other company and imports Dorco razors and sells them. Might even be owned by Dorco but is likely not Dorco.

Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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post #84

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Or buy a straight edge razor, a strope and a stone, and be done for the rest of your life. There's something to be said about shaving with a sharp blade every single time!

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic, but double-edged razors are similar in time and effort to cartridge razors. Straight edges are, however, substantially more demanding in not cutting yourself and in maintenance. (I switched from cartridge to double-edged a year ago and found them about the same, after having looked at straight edge and decided they were too intimidating.)

I was not being sarcastic. There is definitely a learning curve to using a straight edge razor, but it's not that difficult and not as bad as often portrayed.

Maintenance can be cut down a sub-minute per use by ignoring the folklore and cutting a few corners (I use a stone once a month for a few seconds (not considered normal) and only strop half a dozen times before each use).

Re: P&G’s Gillette Sues Dollar Shave Club

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post #81

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The most expensive way to buy blades ever... Mach3 Turbo: $3.50/blade ($2.09 on Amazon S&S). Fusion: $4.50/blade ($3.17 on Amazon S&S). ProGlide: $4.90/blade ($2.61 on Amazon S&S). And since I am comparing it to Amazon's Subscribe & Save, both include delivery and the same level of convenience.

Or you could go the DE safety razor route and pay $0.08/blade for 100 Derby Extras. Cartridge shaving just seems so expensive and wasteful to me...

+1 on the safety razor. Better shave (not to be confused with closer) for less money. People who have sensitive skin should definitely give it a try.
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