The guy (Jony Ive) could've just used ChatGPT. Here is the $640k Ferrari everybody expects - https://ibb.co/GfgGjQQD
That looks great actually x_x
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#782I don't get why Ferrari didn't make a sub brand for EV and other cars that doesn't fit in their 'dream car' philosophy. Enzo did it with Dino, it didn't work then, but could be a smart move today. Regarding the car itself, it's great. It's obvious that car existed in sketches and concept long time ago (compare it to the other Newson car – Ford 012C), maybe it's an Apple car and just materialized with a few Ferrari si…
I think they realize that in the future EVs will far outsell their petrol, so it makes sense to keep the brand for those. The design is bonkers though , a major blunder
A $650k car could be fueled by dandelion farts and angel's tears and the target market wouldn't care much.
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#783I ... it's growing on me! Odd. Very odd feeling. I like the front. I like the interior. Controls and touches look great on video. But rear is awful. So far anyways. Reminds me of this Chevy Impala model family: https://www.rvinyl.com/products/chevrolet-impala-2000-2005-t...
Having owned an Impala of that generation, and having seen so many around for so long, this is exactly where my mind went. These are a dead ringer for their rear lights.
Thank you for the laugh. I knew I saw those lights somewhere and that they didn’t require millions and millions of design prowess from Ive.
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I'll buy this car, mostly because I like the interior. The fact that I like the interior and I can't get it for less money is what justifies the price tag.
Ferrari really isn't a car known for interiors. It's only since 2018 that they stepped up, but that's still not the focus of a Ferrari even with the Roma or Purosangue. Even at low mileage, even for the new cars, wear and heat ruin the car extremely fast. Plastics and glues break down very soon on those cars, other surfaces become sticky and gummy. Ferrari is a car made for the driving experience, if you're looking f…
> Ferrari really isn't a car known for interiors.
To be fair, what, three, four people will see the interior? But thousands see the exterior.
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#785I don't get how Ive is getting so much praise as a designer, after designing the worst iPhones ever and a Ferrari that looks like a Toyota Prius on steroids.
I have a lot of issues with the Ive era and the Mac... but every iPhone he designed was a banger. I think the 12-14 era is the only era of iPhones I thought were bad and that was after him.
I suppose the iPhone 6 was bendable but that was a hardware engineering issue as shown by the same form factor not being bendable for the 6s through 8.
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#786I like that it has lots of mechanical switches. Maybe that'll trickle down to regular cars. The stereo specs are impressive.
The article mentions low center of gravity and 0-60 time. At 2.5 sec, I'm not sure this is much of a differentiator. Teslas can match it, but even a full-sized work truck is already hitting 3.5s. BMW sedans sit at 3.1s. Sure, the Ferrari is a bit faster, but I'm not convinced it's a qualitative difference.
I wonder how it corners. There's no mention of weight in the article. That's been the main differentiator I've noticed between EVs that feel sporty and ones that handle like a pickup truck.
I also wonder how many people will immediately turn off the "authentic sound". I get that the octegenarian crowd is still running the global economy, and likes their lumbering shitbox tuned-exhaust gas guzzlers, but I don't see many gen-x'ers (hitting 50!) or younger that prefer gratuitous road noise.
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#787What did you expect? Braun didn't design any cars.
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Doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t ugly. Porsche made the cayenne and the panamera, too. The V12 buyer won’t even look at this, but the luxury EV buyer now has a new thing to consider.
The back of the car is ugly.
At least it tries to look like a Ferrari a bit more than the rest of the car. It's a rounded F40 without the wing
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#789The guy (Jony Ive) could've just used ChatGPT. Here is the $640k Ferrari everybody expects - https://ibb.co/GfgGjQQD
That looks great actually x_x
Agreed - it's a great starting point at least, and looks nice.
Then again, I'm the definition of "not the target market" as that thing costs more than a California house.
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I have an i3 actually, never selling this thing! I wouldn't know if anything exists that is worthy to replace it.
Do you have the REX and are you in the USA? If so, with an app you can remove the gas-tank restriction and add the ability to maintain charge instead of only turning it on when below 30%.
Am in South Africa, I have the full BEV, not the REX one. Since it's mostly a town commuter I can use the other car for longer trips.