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Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by l23k4 »

drdaeman wrote: post #478
lagrange77 wrote: post #430

The instrument cluser looks awesome, especially the G force instrument! https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/...

What’s awesome about it? It’s not too bad (at least it’s not lit like a Christmas tree), but I’m not sure it’s an awesome UI. Looks like an extremely boring conventional one. That G-force thing is a gimmick. You already know the ballpark without even looking, and unlike speed I’m not sure what’s the use case for precise readings.

>What’s awesome about it?

The fact that it's extremely boring and conventional?

>That G-force thing is a gimmick. You already know the ballpark without even looking, and unlike speed I’m not sure what’s the use case for precise readings.

In this car? A gimmick, could maybe help someone who's trying to learn to drive a bit smoother. In a track car? Useful cornering data

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by mda »

anonu wrote: post #195

Lots of comments saying it looks ugly. I don't agree. But the $650,000 price tag is not pretty - that I can agree on. I know people will pay that.

I don't think it is ugly (Except those wheels) but it doesn't look like a Ferrari.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by l23k4 »

epolanski wrote: post #438
2III7 wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Model S is also a plasticky shitbox from the inside. This Ferrari will be colossally better in terms of build quality, ergonomics and handling compared to the S.

Sure, but his point stands. There is really no way to justify the price tag. With combustion engines at least you knew that you had an extremely rare feat of engineering.

I'll buy this car, mostly because I like the interior.

The fact that I like the interior and I can't get it for less money is what justifies the price tag.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by l23k4 »

onlypassingthru wrote: post #271
qsi wrote: post #251

The Tesla Model S Plaid has similar horsepower (1020 vs 1035), more torque (1050 lb ft vs 730), faster 0-60 (2.1 vs 2.4s), higher top speed (200 vs 193 mph), more range (358 vs 280 mi). For roughly 17% of the price. And it looks the same. What an abomination! (You can probably find similar Chinese EVs that also outperform similarly.)

And the Model S is no longer in production due to poor sales. How many of these $650k family sedans could Ferrari possibly move?

Bizarre comparison.

Who is the customer for a Model S? What fancy full-size sedan would they otherwise buy?

Certainly not the person who'd buy a BMW 7er or a Mercedes S-class. Model S does not offer the basic comforts required to compete in this segment.

Perhaps the person who'd buy a BMW 5er or a Mercedes e-class? Possibly, but the Model S is still an uncomfortable, noisy and cheap feeling clunker compared to those two.

It's not like the full-size luxury sedan market is doing too bad. We've got at least:

  Audi: A8
  BMW: 7er, i7
  Mercedes: S-class, EQS
  Porsche: Panamera, Taycan (sort of)
  Rolls Royce: Phantom, Ghost
  Bentley: Flying spur
Plenty of room for Ferrari to exist, but the Model S has been offering a low-end product at relatively high prices.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by JetSetIlly »

rickdeckard wrote: post #437

Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

Ferrari have long worked with third-party coachbuilders such as Pininfarina. I'm not sure how much autonomy Ive had over the final design, but if it's anything like the relationship with Pininfarina, etc. the design would have been a collaboration.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by ricardobayes »

The interior is fine overall, but why did they not hire Chris Bangle for the exterior? He's known for controversial designs that end up being category-founding car designs. He lives in Italy too now. Or why not reach out to Frank Stephenson, who designed the iconic F430 which pretty much paved the ground for Ferraris modern history.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by syx »

This is what happens when you hand over the job to a Silicon Valley yuppie with absolutely no car design history. As an Italian, this design feels like an insult and it's mental that a company like Ferrari even approved such a project.

The supercar EV market had such huge potential to innovate and inspire but no we decided to follow these average EV design trends instead.

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