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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by vetinari »

favflam wrote: post #701
jimrandomh wrote: post #5

This is undeniably cool and impressive, but, I think proceeding down this research path, at this pace, is quite irresponsible. The primary effect of OpenAI's work has been to set off an arms race, and the effect of that is that humanity no longer has the ability to make decisions about how fast and how far to go with AGI development. Obviously this isn't a system that's going to recursively self-improve and wipe out…

In Dune and Terminator, AI killed almost everyone. So, AI was eventually banned.

Robots/Empire/Foundation, Warhammer 40k... the literature is full of worlds banning AI.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by jliptzin »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #721
jliptzin wrote: post #713

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I have to use a windows PC sometimes and if I accidentally move my mouse to the bottom left of the screen a bunch of Bing News articles pop out telling me about 7 different people dying. I don’t know how to turn it off.

Right click on the taskbar -> Settings -> Widgets toggle to OFF

Thank you

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Post by revskill »

dntrkv wrote: post #572
revskill wrote: post #292

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It's even more helpful to configure webpack config.

I don't really get how it would be easier for this. If you need a standard Webpack config that supports X, Y, and Z. There are tools that do this already much better than ChaptGPT (the Webpack CLI will do it for you). If you need some esoteric config for your highly custom setup, I highly doubt that ChatGPT would be useful in anyway.

We need one tool to rule it all, we don't need 10 better tools.

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Post by siva7 »

zabzonk wrote: post #481
siva7 wrote: post #473

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Microsoft has fucked with Xerox in the 80's. Now they're doing the same with Google.

please explain re bell labs or xerox

Here you go: https://youtu.be/zLZLl3eHdzQ

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Post by Gareth321 »

gerash wrote: post #725
WorldMaker wrote: post #487

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Your "dream" there fuels some of my nightmares. You may discount the potentially devasting threat of a possible massive ecological collapse from relying on one single implementation of web rendering because you don't think open source projects can die because "someone has the resources to potentially fork it", but open source is no guarantee. Beyond that, even discounting the threat of ecological collapse due to a si…

Can someone explain what's the whole deal with this "diversity" of browser engines? Do people also like "diversity" in C++ compiler implementations with "diverse" quirks and bugs unique to each implementation? or the diversity of Python interpreters? What's the point other than incompatibility and head ache?

I agree. This isn't as scary as people say. The threat is that Google does something evil and the web needs to adopt it. Thing is, Chromium is open source. Microsoft or anyone else can immediately fork it. Crisis averted.

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Post by NikolaNovak »

notpachet wrote: post #685
NikolaNovak wrote: post #673

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That's a fairly uncharitable interpretation that I don't feel aided discussion. I used chatgpt to craft stories based on events of the day, then I reviewed and modifies, printed them out, and read them out with my kids. In a given time, it multiplied what I can achieve. I could do it without chat gpt. I could do it without computer and printer. I could do it without pen and paper. Heck I could do it the normal way an…

"I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords"

Again,is that a helpful comment?

I 1000% acknowledged and am terrified of social, economic, power implications. I think they should be discussed and debated.

They are not the same thing though as "is this useful?".

We can and should have discussion on dangers of nuclear and AI and ubi and myriad other things. I will still unabashedly repeat my only point in this thread - it's shocking to me that some people find "chatgpt has no use", to the point I find it disingenuous.

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Post by coldpie »

joxel wrote: post #366
skilled wrote: post #214

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It will though. Nothing in this world is free, least of all greed and ignorance.

Hopefully you have other skills because the wagon wheel makers can whine all they want but the automobile is coming

While I disagree with your analogy -- auto makers didn't build their business by stealing the work of wheelwrights -- I agree with the conclusion that the auto is coming.

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Post by JohnFen »

basch wrote: post #510
JohnFen wrote: post #455

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> that is an overall boon for end-users. But it would be a loss for people doing research.

Can you give an example of something you think will work in standard search but that stateful search would fail to return good results for?

Any searches that aren't looking for an immediate answer. When I'm searching, I don't want the search engine to find an answer for me. I want the search engine to provide me with a list of websites that touch on the topic I'm looking for, so I can get a "big picture" of what's out there, review them, and put together the information I'm looking for from the mosaic that I have been presented.

I don't want the search engine narrow my view to a tiny selection of websites or, worse, try to summarize the contents of the websites. That's not useful to me in terms of what I use search engines for.

Stateful search is really only useful for narrowing things down. That's not what I want the machine to do except in terms of paying attention to the keywords I want (and the keywords I actively don't want).

I totally understand there are use cases where what I actively don't want may be exactly what is desired. That's just not my use case. That's why I'm not saying there shouldn't be such search engines. I'm just saying that I hope my use case will also be possible, or web searching loses a whole lot of usefulness to me.

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Post by JohnFen »

robinsonb5 wrote: post #548
JohnFen wrote: post #458

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I did that experiment a while back. I think (but it's hard to tell) that I perceived the quality falling for me in that case. Much of the problem with Google is that it's trying to make a guess about what I /really/ want, when what I really want is to find sites that contain certain words or phrases. Tracking me is irrelevant to that task, and if my online behavior affects the search results I get, that can't improve…

The one place where I think tracking helps (though it's just a gut feeling - I don't have evidence) is when disambiguating search terms that can be interpreted different ways. Google knows that the tech-related interpretation is probably the one I'm looking for, while DDG doesn't.

I do a better job of disambiguating than Google can do, especially if Google is paying attention to my internet or search history to do it.

If I'm searching for something, it's very likely to be something a bit unusual for me to search for. If it's in line with what I need regularly, I don't search -- I go to my bookmark library.

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Post by notpachet »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #776
notpachet wrote: post #685

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"I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords"

Again,is that a helpful comment? I 1000% acknowledged and am terrified of social, economic, power implications. I think they should be discussed and debated. They are not the same thing though as "is this useful?". We can and should have discussion on dangers of nuclear and AI and ubi and myriad other things. I will still unabashedly repeat my only point in this thread - it's shocking to me that some people find "cha…

If I'm to expand on my (admittedly a little facetious) parent comment, it would be to say:

I'm not arguing that ChatGPT has no use. My argument is that I strongly suspect the long term negative externalities of large language models will vastly exceed any positive impact they will have on society. And humanity has a pretty clearly established track record in terms of widespread deployment of things that bring some immediate utility but whose longterm consequences we don't understand upfront. CFC's, artificial sweeteners, cigarettes, lead paint, social media, React Hooks, so on and so on and so on, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

I guess I'm just surprised how easily people are able to put aside their terror (as you put it) in exchange for some of that sweet, sweet, short-term utility. They're two sides of the same coin. You're ushering in tomorrow's consequences, unseen.

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