It fills me with joy seeing the Empire hurting itself in confusion.
The United States withdraws from UNESCO
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Can you link authenticatic sources to back those claims up? Do you even know what the intifada means? Or are you using foreign words to make it sound scary?
When the definite form is used , and certainly when used in English and in the context of global events, The Intifada (emphasis added on the to highlight that this is used in definite form) refers to the Second Palestinian Intifada - which was characterized random violent attacks against civilians such as suicide bombings and shootings. Calls to Globalize the Intifada are calls for violent attacks against civilian ta…
So, it's against the Jews worldwide, not against the Zionists (including Christian American Zionists) illegal settlers that kill the Palestinian people and steal their land?
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#763Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is one interpretation of that phrase. And I could always say "the final solution" is referring to my math homework. In the context of the Palestinian occupation, intifada ALWAYS is meant as violent. There is no other interpretation. Pretending that it doesn't is both bad faith and classic taqiyya.
taqiyya is a new word to me. I can’t help but feel it’s being used as a bit of a slur here - not sure, but just in case i’ll point out that there are examples of basically every religious group hiding their faith when threatened. Jews during the holocaust and in inquisition spain, and catholics in elizabethan england, are historic examples i’m familiar with.
You sure post a lot about without knowing a lot about the culture of whom you're talking about. That word also doesn't mean what you think it does, and even has different meanings to different groups that use it.
I was only raised in it. I couldn't possibly know anything.
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I don't know what's involved, but if no one is willing to accept Gazans then it seems like that might be a practical difficulty?
Hmm why do many countries not want to accept Palestinians? - Supported Saddam in Kuwait - Supported Saddam in Iraq - Massacred Christians in Lebanon - Tried to overthrow Jordan - Caused chaos in Syria - Destabilized Libya - Aligned with iranian axis despite gulf states (eg Saudi) hosting at that time - Complained about Egypt-Israel peace despite the former being the only country to send men to die for them - Sent jih…
Look at the demographics of Palestine. They are very young. Most of them weren't even born when most of those supposed things supposedly happened. Are you implying that parent's sins transfer to their children?
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#765Obama withdrew all US funds from UNESCO in 2011 as well, due to Palestine being admitted in. This isn't anything particularly noteworthy, just more capitulating to Israel, which is annoying.
"In 2011, the United States stopped funding Unesco because of what was then a forgotten, 15-year-old amendment mandating a complete cutoff of American financing to any United Nations agency that accepts Palestine as a full member. Various efforts by President Barack Obama to overturn the legal restriction narrowly failed in Congress, and the United States lost its vote at the organization after two years of nonpaymen…
There is also a US law banning military aid to Israel since they have nukes outside of the NPT. Pakistan got an exception after a deal with their cooperation in the war on Terror.
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You have to sign a document saying you won't boycott Israel, academic journals cancel editions which talk about Palestine, you can't be part of UNESCO for Israel. You can't write a college article critical of Israel or we'll kidnap you off the streets into an unmarked van. You can't be a business and not give a contract to Israel or your employee will tip off the Anti Boycott Office against you. Your Congressmen wear…
The right (same people behind project 2025) planned (and are now executing) an effort to use opposition to Israeli policy (calling it anti-Semitic) as a way to crack down and disrupt liberal and progressive groups across the Us. It’s all out in the open, they don’t hide it.
You mean the Heritage Foundation's Project Esther.
Left/right is not a useful distinction for the present moment. The recent mayoral elections in New York and Minneapolis suggest that the relevant divide is pro/anti Zionist. You have Democrats, Republicans, Donald Trump, Silicon Valley and the media establishment on one side; with campus leftists, Tucker Carlson, Saagar Enjeti and global public opinion on the other.
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The same could be said of any worldview. So tell me—what part of UNESCO’s decision to admit the “State of Palestine” as a Member State strikes you as objectively righteous?
I didn't say I thought it was objectively righteous. I didn't say anything about my worldview. It seems objective that many civilians have been killed and a lot of land stolen. But my point is that things that seem objective to one group of people might be objectively false to another group. Which isn't to say that there is no real truth. Just that the premises people hold are so different that the worlds are not com…
"...a lot of land stolen" let me just say that your limited understanding is painful.
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I find reaction of pro Palestine people to the Israeli/Palestine conflict where they make it extremely personal very interesting. Where is the same energy for what is going on in US?
Is there an ongoing genocide happening in the US?
There are other genocides happening in Myanmar and Sudan that nobody talks about.
And as far as US, you had a distinct movement that was against Kamala specifically because she was pro Israel.
I really don't understand the obsession with this particular conflict to the point where you feel like you are in the moral right by essentially punishing US people and making it worse for the people you care about (in terms of Republicans being way more pro Israel), specifically because the democratic party, didn't offer up a candidate that is EXPLICITLY against Israel.
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Most American evangelicals support Israel. I'm not so sure if the rest of the remaining Americans also support Israel.
According to Gallup the majority of the US public supports Israel over Palestine, just as it has for decades. It's now "at it's lowest in 25 years" but it's still 46% vs 33% for Palestine, down from around 60% pro Israel in prior years. https://thecradle.co/articles/us-popular-support-for-israel-... About 10% of Americans identify as evangelical protestants https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/how-many-evangelicals-…
> According to Gallup the majority of the US public supports Israel over Palestine
Gotta love you turning this into a concept similar to "which sports team do you support more". Following your link, the actual question is "In the Middle East situation, are your sympathies more with the Israelis or more with the Palestinians?". which has a lot different nuance (nuance? Oh wait I forget where I am...)
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#770I feel like the US is becoming like China. Very economically important obviously, but will end up culturally irrelevant. It's hard to build up that much ill-will and still be considered glamorous. I can be wrong, and this isn't my personal judgement, but a genuine prediction.
In what respect is the US becoming like China?
Economic powerhouse that everyone deals with, but no one respects.