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Post by dakolli »

Daishiman wrote: post #481
dakolli wrote: post #472

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Anthropic/OpenAI have been flooding this site with pro "AI" bots the last few weeks, this is for sure a pro-AI bot or employee from an "AI" company.

It may be the case. I've been around in the industry for 25 years and I barely code. I babysit multiple instances of Claude and we were very purposeful and deliberate in altering our workflows for it; we made our local dev environments capable of spinning up multiple instances to work from parallel worktrees. We added MCP servers to let LLMs observe our CI, Jira and deployments. Most of our time is spent doing spec w…

Sounds like a miserable existence.

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Post by Miner49er »

AbioticAdam wrote: post #749
Miner49er wrote: post #732

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I highly doubt that. Humans might become obsolete, but money will almost certainly still be a thing.

Interesting. Do you think a super intelligence would use our currency?

Yeah. I think the economy will be by AI for AI. Markets will still be the most efficient way to allocate resources, and AI will probably still want to achieve infinite growth of capitalism.

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Post by tredre3 »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #647
lovich wrote: post #101

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I didn’t think just offloading your thinking to AI was AI psychosis. To me AI psychosis is the handful of friends I’ve had who have done things like have a full on mourning session when a model updates because they lost a friend/lover, the one guy who won’t speak to his family directly but has them talk to ChatGPT first and then has ChatGPT generate his response, or the two who are confident that they have discovered…

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> Women lmao

Are you under the impression that it's a woman's thing to anthropomorphize and/or desire an emotional relationship with a chatbot?

Anecdotally I only know of men who have AI companions. Including very smart/highly paid engineers. The AI companion platforms also market more heavily towards men, because that's presumably where the audience is. The subreddit r/MyGirlfriendIsAI also exists as a counterpoint to yours.

But, admittedly, I have far fewer women in my entourage so my view might be biased.

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Post by thfuran »

ericmay wrote: post #734
kalkin wrote: post #727

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> The closure leads to price increases which leads to inflation which leads to non-dollar assets (ie stocks going up in value) I think this argument proves too much. Historically energy shocks have led to recessions, and in recessions the stock market usually doesn't go up. And the US economy is certainly exposed to global recession regardless of whether we're a net exporter of fossil fuels.

Well, there are quite a number of factors. I think you're right that "it's inflation" is a little too simple, but it does seem to be at least a significant factor, in my opinion. The Strait of Hormuz is, basically not a big deal unless you're driving your big ole' truck. Americans are price sensitive and so some companies will have to absorb pricing increases, customers will absorb some others, and so forth. In other…

>The Strait of Hormuz is, basically not a big deal unless you're driving your big ole' truck

Are you serious? Even ignoring the other things that ship through there, a significant disruption to global energy supply is significant to most people. If you're not driving a truck, you're probably using goods that contain plastic or took energy to produce or were moved from one place to another in fuel-powered vehicles. If, somehow, you're not, you're probably using services that are.

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Post by zemo »

denkmoon wrote: post #643
doginasuit wrote: post #355

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I've never had more fun coding, but the key is actually still writing the code yourself. The LLM has terrible judgment but an encyclopedic knowledge and the ability to pick out important details in a sea of information. Their worse use is producing code, but somehow that gets all the energy. Being an LLM babysitter is energy draining and you feel less and less in control. No job is worth being miserable doing somethi…

What do you use an LLM for then? Or you’re saying just don’t use it at all?

working in a large codebase I use Claude for code understanding and the code reviews from Macroscope have caught bugs for me a bunch of times. Usually if I use claude it’s for refactoring a and source to source transformations that would be too confusing for me to figure out how to do with e.g. ast-grep, but that I can prompt in a minute or two and then have claude work through it. It’s stuff I could do without LLMs but it’s less effort to use them. I don’t let it write new code, because it decays the process of programming as theory building.

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Post by regularization »

kalkin wrote: post #698

I think there's a reasonable argument that our entire society right now is under AI psychosis: The stock market keeps going up in the face of the indefinite closure of Hormuz. We're investing in datacenters at a scale that only makes sense if AI capabilities continue to advance to the point where they surpass most humans at most white collar tasks, if not reach superintelligence. And what are the possible outcomes? -…

> The stock market keeps going up in the face of the indefinite closure of Hormuz. We're investing in datacenters at a scale that only makes sense

If there is a psychosis, what is it? It is not an AI psychosis - modern AI started in the 1940s, or by some definitions before, and made progress up until 15 years ago to where deep neural networks became viable. And it has been progress on every front since then. No psychosis, it is doing well.

You mention the stock market, and that is another story. Cryptocurrencies, sub-prime loans, dot-com crash, Asian financial crisis. The economy has veered from crisis to crisis, overproduction and overproduction to crashes and bailouts.

AI is doing just fine - the past 15 years are a success for it we did not see in the decades before. If the economy as constituted is dealing with this in a "psychotic" fashion, it would not be the first time.

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Post by zemo »

hmokiguess wrote: post #737

The tone of the twitter post feels very personal, and emotional, and I am sorry for the author. I hope he can find peace and calm with the pace of change to put forward his best self without needing to act like he needs to defend or fight something. The energy feels misdirected and maybe also a communication issue, I think spreading awareness needs to come not from attacking and also not from attempts to change peopl…

nice try, Claude

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Post by winrid »

pmontra wrote: post #425
impulser_ wrote: post #48

I'm pretty sure he's talking about companies and people outsourcing their decision making and thinking to AI and not really about using AI itself. I don't think using AI to write code is AI psychosis or bad at all, but if you just prompt the AI and believe what it tell you then you have AI psychosis. You see this a lot with financial people and VC on twitter. They literally post screenshots of ChatGPT as their thinki…

What I'm seeing is a little eternal September of support tickets about programs that fail to interface the JSON API of a customer of mine. The API is always allucinated. In the best case there are out of place attributes. Often they don't exist at all. I've seen x, y, width, height when we have only top and left. Of course no human read the documentation. Those are probably founders vibe coding a client without the t…

That's why I made an API LLMs can call to search fastcomments APIs: https://docs.fastcomments.com/guide-llm-kit.html
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