The bottom is dropping out of Netflix • Hacker News Board

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by rjbwork » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:15 PM UTC

Krasnol wrote: post #640

Stunting wrote: post #291

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You're stealing income, specifically from me and all of my coworkers. Perhaps you think that you're only stealing from Producers and A list actors, but there are entire departments that receive residuals on a production. - On screen performers, stunt performers like myself and actors who grind out a comfortable living. Those residuals also go to qualifying for health insurance through earnings. You are directly steal…

Wow I thought 2022 nobody would still be so 90s in this regard. Most of those who pirate, wouldn't pay and since the content is not going away because somebody pirates it, it can't be stealing. And Jesus...please...it's not like you're starving out there. Start producing original stories. We don't even need all that fancy and expensive CGI crap. Just start writing properly and in a creative way. Pay THOSE people more…

> Wow I thought 2022 nobody would still be so 90s in this regard.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

Although in this case, I have to imagine that first understanding the problem would enable the industry to fix itself and then make more money.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by tyingq » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:16 PM UTC

listless wrote: post #697

danans wrote: post #322

I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

My wife keeps throwing out “wokeness” as the reason and I don’t buy it. Yes, that shit is obnoxious, but I don’t care. If your content is good, be as “woke” as you like. I just want good shows. Bottom line is Netflix has too much competition from cheaper platforms with better content.

Some of it would be what it does to "suspension of disbelief". It's hard to get immersed in a show if it doesn't seem real enough.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by aneil » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:17 PM UTC

I thought I was alone when I unsubbed. I couldn't believe everyone was watching the trash Netflix was churning out. I take their decline as a positive statement about humanity.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by gramie » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:19 PM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #707

j4yav wrote: post #671

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I have been rebuilding my DVD collection through thrift stores. It’s incredibly cheap to do so now, and pretty fun to see what you find.

I think an issue for me that prevents me from collecting DVD’s, to; say - collecting CD’s - is that while a CD from the 1980’s is pretty much the best quality of audio you can still get today, DVD’s unfortunately suffer from an issue where the SD quality has aged very poorly, and the difference in resolution and image quality is insanely noticeable on, especially 4K, TV’s. Of course, since CD’s are uncompressed audio…

Surprise, the physical layers in your DVDs and CDs is also decaying, so a CD from the 1980s may well be unplayable now. I've found that with many of my old commercial disks, let alone the ones I've burned myself.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by mackrevinack » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:21 PM UTC

f0e4c2f7 wrote: post #40

sudden_dystopia wrote: post #22

Interesting analysis. I find it interesting that so many people spend so much time watching tv in the first place. Growing up, I was one of those people but about a decade ago I lost interest in pretty much anything on television. There are certain shows that I will watch on occasion that get me hooked, but I usually struggle to find anything that is actually worth my time and end up just turning the tv off after sur…

I don't watch stuff unless it has ended and is reccomended by someone who watches shows I generally enjoy. Here's my pitch for the golden age of TV, though most of these are from a few years back. Most on HBO. The Wire The Sopranos Generation Kill The Deuce Treme Show me a Hero Luck The Expanse Sillicon Valley (not actually that funny but like a documentary of our field) Mad Men

true detective, season 1

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by omnibrain » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

Cowboy Bebop and Archive 81 are oly the latest examples where Netflix cancelled a series I intended to watch before I was even able to watch one episode. So why should I keep my subscription at all? I can come back in a few years and see what I missed in the mean time.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by saurik » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

ripe wrote: post #664

MillenialGran wrote: post #642

This has been amazing to watch unfold. Netflix after canceling all of its best shows during a period when piracy has never been easier: "Let's start doing ads!" I wonder if anybody at Netflix has seen the UX of popular streaming apps like (now defunct I believe) terrarium and its successors. They're easier to use, just as fast as Netflix, have much larger libraries, allow DRM-free downloads, ad-free, no algorithmic s…

I agree with your point that Netflix UX is terrible. But what do you mean "canceling all of its best shows"? It's not Netflix's fault if the studios pulled their licenses for their content, for their own streaming services.

When I read that phrase I presume they mean Netflix's first-party content, not content being licensed.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by makecheck » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

I think it would have been interesting if Netflix had shopped around its tech stack, kind of how companies that make games can also sell game-making engines.

Maybe they could have had a huge windfall by offering to be the “AWS” behind every “$CHANNEL+” streaming service. In other words, instead of having 14 kludgey apps that all suck in at least one way, we get 14 services but with a smooth implementation.

I don’t see how content is a long-term win for them.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by mlex » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:29 PM UTC

makecheck wrote: post #758

I think it would have been interesting if Netflix had shopped around its tech stack, kind of how companies that make games can also sell game-making engines. Maybe they could have had a huge windfall by offering to be the “AWS” behind every “$CHANNEL+” streaming service. In other words, instead of having 14 kludgey apps that all suck in at least one way, we get 14 services but with a smooth implementation. I don’t se…

Coincidentally, AWS has a video streaming service already: https://aws.amazon.com/ivs/

Disclaimer: I work at Twitch, an Amazon subsidiary whose tech it's based off of.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by ZYinMD » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 9:30 PM UTC

I just want to buy the shows I want to watch, and permanently own them under my Netflix account. I don't mind buying them for $30 a season. Just like Steam.

Hey you know what? I think Steam should probably do just that!