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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by j4yav »

ripe wrote: post #662

It's sad that we cannot own titles but are forced to rent them from these streaming services that can't seem to get their shit together. (Not blaming Netflix per se; this is a pox on all their houses). Used to be nice in the DVD days. I built myself a nice collection then. This was the idea behind digital rights lockers: UltraViolet, which Disney refused to participate in and which closed down in 2019, and its succes…

I have been rebuilding my DVD collection through thrift stores. It’s incredibly cheap to do so now, and pretty fun to see what you find.

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Post by chrisseaton »

ripe wrote: post #662

It's sad that we cannot own titles but are forced to rent them from these streaming services that can't seem to get their shit together. (Not blaming Netflix per se; this is a pox on all their houses). Used to be nice in the DVD days. I built myself a nice collection then. This was the idea behind digital rights lockers: UltraViolet, which Disney refused to participate in and which closed down in 2019, and its succes…

What stops you buying on iTunes for example?

And did anyone ever use those UltraViolet codes? I never tried them. What did they even do?

I guess streaming won out because consumers prefer it - I know I do.

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Post by lostcolony »

ripe wrote: post #662

It's sad that we cannot own titles but are forced to rent them from these streaming services that can't seem to get their shit together. (Not blaming Netflix per se; this is a pox on all their houses). Used to be nice in the DVD days. I built myself a nice collection then. This was the idea behind digital rights lockers: UltraViolet, which Disney refused to participate in and which closed down in 2019, and its succes…

The cost is part of the reasons those never really caught on, not just participation. The number of titles I (and I assume, most people) will watch enough to warrant paying $20 for is vanishingly small. Even $4 a rental is a hard bar to pass at this point with streaming competing.

$1-2 to rent though? I'd be all over that. Weirdly, that's the cost to rent a physical disk at Redbox...but an on demand title anywhere is higher than that. Despite a streaming solution being cheaper to distribute, the fact it's more convenient/desirable, I guess, means it costs enough to price it outside of what I want to pay.

This feels like a really inefficient market.

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Post by whymauri »

danans wrote: post #322

I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

A key point here is TikTok and the attention economy. At a high level, the entertainment/social media industries are based on a finite resource: attention. Netflix is losing the attention of users, especially younger users, to other platforms. Then there is attention loss due to other rising streaming services.

But yeah, the rate hikes are also hitting hard. Targeting account sharing more aggressively than they already do will lead to more cancellations. And the day Netflix shows me an ad, I will never use it again.

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Post by eweise »

ripe wrote: post #662

It's sad that we cannot own titles but are forced to rent them from these streaming services that can't seem to get their shit together. (Not blaming Netflix per se; this is a pox on all their houses). Used to be nice in the DVD days. I built myself a nice collection then. This was the idea behind digital rights lockers: UltraViolet, which Disney refused to participate in and which closed down in 2019, and its succes…

I don't know about movies, but music streaming is awesome. I have a couple thousand CDs that are sitting in a closet somewhere. For a while I kept them as mp3s on a hardrive, copied other people's mp3s to build up my collection. But its still so limited. I love going through my favorite artists on spotify, listening to the less popular albums I never would have bought and discovering new artists.

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Post by bognition »

odshoifsdhfs wrote: post #670
ripe wrote: post #662

It's sad that we cannot own titles but are forced to rent them from these streaming services that can't seem to get their shit together. (Not blaming Netflix per se; this is a pox on all their houses). Used to be nice in the DVD days. I built myself a nice collection then. This was the idea behind digital rights lockers: UltraViolet, which Disney refused to participate in and which closed down in 2019, and its succes…

Doesn’t apple still allow you to buy movies on their service? I only bought two (the iron giant and the bucket list) but i am pretty sure iron giant i bought close to 15 years ago. I can still download it from their service without any problems(just went to the tv app on my phone to confirm and just started to download them right now)

Yes many online services do but there is little to no interoperability.

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Post by nonameiguess »

62951413 wrote: post #631
andrew_ wrote: post #385

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I had been a Netflix for customer for 10 years. For me personally, it's a combination of several of the reasons you cast doubt on. While I may not be in the majority, I am real and those reasons (which I shall not list, to avoid HN wrath) were attributed to my cancellation.

I loved NFLX when they had a 4-CD plan. All the HBO shows from the golden age of TV 10 years ago .. I know that I cannot blame them for losing streaming rights. But I definitely can for pushing the government ideology in their original content. The last few seasons of Longmire is the last show for normal people I can remember NFLX to produce. I'd have no problem paying for the kind of TV we had with Mad Men or Breaki…

AMC actually has its own streaming service now, AMC+.

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Post by cguess »

roody15 wrote: post #137
pojzon wrote: post #125

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I can assume Netflix does not have this kind of browsing simply due to amount of content they have. Offering of Netflix is extremely poor if you crop out all the duplicate shows popping on your feed. Ive decided to drop Netflix simply because: - new interesting shows are popping up so rarely, there is no point to pay the monthly sub - there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont ne…

"there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows" Yes sadly this has become much more prominent in the last couple of years. It has blatant political propaganda inserted into all of their original content that is clearly forced and hurts the quality of the programming.

You never watched Sesame Street did you? They've been explaining social issues to kids since the 1960's. Of course Mr. Rodger's first episode was explaining the Vietnam War. Kids shows are and have always been political if they're not pure fantasy (even then...)

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Post by postalrat »

jayd16 wrote: post #435
wtetzner wrote: post #221

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How about a list you can vertically scroll through, with the option to filter based on various criteria?

A vertical list is a waste of horizontal space when it's a list of movie posters. They go with the carrousel for better or worse because it lets you quickly scroll through categories without scrolling through every item in a category. If you want a grid, its basically what they have. If you just want more search options, I agree but the search layout is also already a grid. I'm asking for a specific implemented app t…

You need to scroll though netflix both vertically and horizontally. How about at least making vertical scrolling the primary scroll direction.

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Post by digisign »

Stunting wrote: post #548
digisign wrote: post #486

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When you work for the devil, don't be surprised to become collateral damage. Thinking of all the stealing they've done from the public domain it makes my blood boil. Charging top dollar for artists work that have been dead for decades is a disgrace. How about "stealing" from the public and renting it out in perpetuity... Winnie the Pooh, anyone?

"I steal from you because I find your parent company morally reprehensible, yet I would still like to enjoy the services provided by that company." Hell of a position.

Most of the money goes to the top, and if you are going to throw around inaccurate/loaded terms like stealing, two can play at that game. 1%ers take a larger slice of the pie than street thugs but we are misdirected and situation quietly swept under the rug.
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