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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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As a matter of fact, arrest is the proper remedy for obstruction, which is at least a misdemeanor and sometimes a felony, and it may include those first two things, or even the third if they violently resist. And despite widely spread misinformation online, ICE has the legal authority to arrest anyone, even citizens, if they see them doing this. There’s really no other way law enforcement could work, I don’t know wha…

What if LEOs have a clear pattern of acting outside of the Constitution and lying about the circumstances around “obstruction”? Can you see a point at which it no longer makes sense to comply? I believe the founding fathers have much to say on this subject.

I think, having been arrested and had other encounters with police, I am going to be the most docile lamb in the world and talk to my lawyer later. I haven’t seen anything that’s not very typical cop behavior.

If you think revolution is the answer I don’t agree, but surely you see that risking your life is table stakes.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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> I actually don't have an ideological bent… This works better if we can't see your posts. > you assume the officer's injuries are minor.. First, you don't know that. I do know that, as he was released from the hospital same day.

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> My "ideology" is submission to the Creator. It's not "my" ideology.

> You have your ideology though. Though it's not really yours at all…

Aww, we're twinsies!

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Can anyone explain a user flow for how a Palantir product enables ICE to go from app launch to ‘target arrested’?

Here's an example. One of my friends works for a manufacturing company. He attended a protest. The next day ICE called his employer and he was informed that if he attended another protest he would be fired. All this b/c he had a small company logo on his jacket. The ability to en-mass record, lookup and intimidate citizens is unprecedented and while I have no hard proof that this is due to Palantir, it sure smells li…

Firing due to political activity outside of work? That sounds super illegal.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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A broad answer: because America is more violent. The ICE officers are armed and absolutely will use their weapons if given half a chance to. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think any rioters in countries like Spain go to a protest with a bet real chance on their minds that they might die.

> Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think any rioters in countries like Spain go to a protest with a bet real chance on their minds that they might die. That's the thing, they do, and have in the past too. Some might even recall riots ~70 years ago that kind of spiraled out of control and led to a civil war. Looking at what's happening in Iran as we speak might be a good idea as well, where they've had enough, know that th…

Democracies are vulnerable to many things: populism, vote-rigging, importing migrants to vote for a given party, and much more. Without a reboot, many democracies slide into autocracy. First, the government bans weapons, then curtails civil rights under the guise of child protection, offending religious sensibilities, blocks websites, and gradually tightens penalties for free speech. It all happens gradually. And suddenly you can't write your opinion online without being arrested. The UK is a case in point. Unarmed people are doomed to change things not only in authoritarian countries, but even in nominally democratic ones. Examples include peaceful and not-so-peaceful protests in Iran, Belarus, and Russia in the struggle against the authorities. Peaceful protests without the support of the army and the elite always end in failure. Another example is the protests in the UK against the influx of Muslim migrants, where the authorities support the latter.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Can you elaborate on some of Yarvin's points you think are good?

Honest-to-God truthfully, reading Moldbug is what made me realize the speciousness of pure rightism and ushered my journey from a rightist-axiomatic "Libertarian" / ancap to a centrist-qualitative libertarian-without-labels that sees left and right thinking as both necessary parts of a complete whole. But YMMV, apparently! In general I think whenever you find a "red pill", you also end up confronted with a whole slew…

I will never ever understand the construct of right / left / red / blue / lib / conservative without having to take a really dumb view of the world and its human inhabitants.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Respectfully, this is cheap cope. The bomb maker didn't know when he made the bomb, maybe. Now he knows, as do all the people turning the gears on this meat grinder, including a bunch of people here. If you value your comfy life over the well being of others and the future of not only the country, but without an ounce of hyperbole, the human race, then keep your head down. If you don't, fuckin DO SOMETHING. You know…

>If you value your comfy life over the well being of others and the future of not only the country For people who think borders are just lines, our country as geography doesn't even exist. It's just lines. For people who think that all people are the same, everywhere, and deserve to go where they please, our country as a people doesn't exist either. So if that's your conception of a country, why should I care about i…

Is this metaphor or did you actually experience this?

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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This.... But then I still hear people say that this is what the 2nd amendment is for... Meanwhile, to make sure they have the heavier weapons, law enforcement goes absolutely bananas on what they carry. The second amendment was written in a time when a firearm was a musket.

They didn't just have muskets at that time, repeating firearms were just too expensive to outfit entire armies with them. When you can supply 10 guys with muskets for the same cost as 1 guy with a repeating firearm, you pick the 10 men even if the 1 guy can fire just as fast.

Are you sure?

https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/slideshow/Firearms-o...

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Can you provide an example of an unambiguously peaceful protester being attacked? Id like to research one you consider a clear case.

Here are several off the top of my head with sources and videos: Peaceful protester/protest crowd attacked: (video) https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1qcyvqt/ice_shoo... (video) https://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/comments/1qcbpac/hug... (video) https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/1qceoy4/shards_o... U.S. Citizen arrested/detained for having an accent: https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1…

Please pick one. Videos don’t show full context. I will try to run to the ground ( as well as I can ) one of these.

Which would you say is the one that best makes your case?

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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The Palantro CEO, Alex Karp, is on the record that he approves of what the president is doing in regards to immigration enforcement and the striking of boats in international waters.

This is a man that has never been punched in his mouth.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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They’re arrested and charged with appropriate offenses, e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyg3j2kvzdo.amp Renee Nicole wasn’t driving a car at anyone, but regardless, it is stupid to shoot someone who’s driving a car at you as it won’t stop the car. What you need to do in that situation is get out of the way.

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