Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

Post by Khaine » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 11:41 PM UTC

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Patio11 has some good coverage of Trudeau's handling of the trucker protest against the government's handling of COVID-19 [1]. Whatever you think of the truckers' position or protest tactics, any punishment for their actions ought to go through the laws and court system. Trudeau instead essentially told the banking system "You can't do business with those people, they're terrorists." Patio11's words of what happened…

YSK that the people who had their accounts frozen weren't simply protesting in Ottawa; they were blocking international borders to our largest trading partner, effectively holding our economy hostage. This absolutely constitutes behavior that's a danger to our nation so it makes sense to freeze the accounts of the people doing it. To be clear, there were many attempts to settle this without freezing people's bank acc…

Post by Khaine » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 11:44 PM UTC

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> effectively holding our economy hostage This is what a protest is. (French here). If protesters go as far, and in Canada it was because you did them dirty, then you must sit at a table and negotiate. You must sit at a table and negotiate with everyone in a country. You cannot do someone dirty then complain that they protest. It’s effects removing the right to protest, and therefore, removing democracy itself. Go li…

Not a Canadian, but no, a protest protests and gives voice to the disagreement. Blocking other people's rights is not just a protest and is likely to trigger action to protect others. That's how it goes everywhere that has rights. Normally, some effort is made to do it peacefully, but there are no countries where you can halt the economy whenever you want to force people to negotiate with you.

Post by AlexandrB » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 11:48 PM UTC

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I was a resident of downtown Ottawa during this period. It was bad. We had a young kid and didn't feel even safe walking her to a park, because the route crossed over convoy lines and there were all sorts of stories of harassment and assaults. We didn't even experience the worst of it; lots of people dealt with truck horns blaring 24/7, but at least our street at least was kept clear as an emergency route. We put up…

Its interesting how as of late the working-class's totally self-sabatoging ways of protesting almost universally piss off their fellow men and women, rather than taking their grievances to the powers that support them.

Post by TTTCOTTH » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 11:51 PM UTC

Post by glitchc » Mon, Jan 06, 2025, 11:54 PM UTC

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Please stop spreading lies and FUD. The pipeline buyout was too little too late after the government stalled and delayed permits over never-ending environmental assessments. All in all, the projected cost of capital flight exceeds $30 billion CAD (the article is from 2019): https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/the-30-billion-... The government has openly committed to ending all funding for fossil fuels in 202…

> the courts stalled and delayed permits over never-ending environmental assessments. FTFY.