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Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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> Check the video,I would say masks help. It's basic physics Masks leak. Airflow seeks the path of least resistance. Also basic physics. People are not mannequins in a fume hood with scrap of cloth glued to their slobberhole. I don't think anyone is disputing the idea that if you could somehow hermetically seal off everyone's face holes, you'd stop the spread of a respiratory virus. But we can't, and we don't, so the…

what is the risk of wearing a mask? that you look silly? the real world evidence is mixed, yes. People are not mannequins, people die. If a simple action of mine, that might make me look silly, might save some lives (might, I don't know, yet from annexdotes countries that had no problem with wearing masks and other measures faired better) I will do what these countries did (and also wear a mask). It's rational compas…

> what is the risk of wearing a mask? that you look silly?

Fortunately, "lack of silliness" is not the standard of evidence for a medical intervention.

There are a great many things that we might impose on others that might have some impact. There are, in fact, an infinite number of these things.

Your desire to do these things "just in case" does not justify their imposition on other people. But more importantly: we've had a long time to study this intervention now. Perhaps it's time to gather some actual evidence that it works?

After all, it's not just the question of whether or not I want to do it -- it's the question of whether or not huge number of people are convinced that they're protecting themselves, and somehow behaving differently out of a misguided sense of protection. That matters quite a bit.

> It's rational compassion for me.

No, without evidence, it's just a guess.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Science is the history of people debunking ideas that "seem basic" to other people. Those are called "hypotheses", and they're great. The next step is to find evidence that proves the hypothesis...and that's where we're stuck here.

Science is the history of people seeing something basic and getting told by others that it's not true ... E.g. the earth is round. Yet, You can never prove a hypothesis just present more and more evidence. My point: it does not hurt me to wear a mask and it might help people, so I will do it. It seems also that scientists who know more about this than me, support this idea. They might be wrong, yet even if they are t…

Not driving a car might help people also.

Not leaving your house also might help people.

If it 'might help people' why not either of those options?

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Mask policy? You mean epidemiological studies on communities? Ok.... Masks may or may not work as a stop for particles but do they stop spread on a community level?

This just shows your ignorance even further. "Mask policy" - what a government organization (DOH, city council, what have you) states as its recommended behavior, action, enforcement practices. And has _absolutely nothing to do with_ epidemiological studies on communities. Nothing. Whatsoever. Policy: 'you should do X' Epidemiological study: a controlled investigation into what happens when people do X, when they don…

Do these meet your criteria?

The first three articles:

1. Meta analysis of mask usage

2. "''A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal...."''

3. """large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants"""

You clearly didn't click on the first two articles like you said you did.

You're a liar and a fascist.

I'm done here.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Mask policy? You mean epidemiological studies on communities? Ok.... Masks may or may not work as a stop for particles but do they stop spread on a community level?

This just shows your ignorance even further. "Mask policy" - what a government organization (DOH, city council, what have you) states as its recommended behavior, action, enforcement practices. And has _absolutely nothing to do with_ epidemiological studies on communities. Nothing. Whatsoever. Policy: 'you should do X' Epidemiological study: a controlled investigation into what happens when people do X, when they don…

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Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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Sure you are, cope.

You the one who emailed me telling me to kill myself? Lol. You first, virgin.

If you post like this to HN again we will ban you. Not cool.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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You the one who emailed me telling me to kill myself? Lol. You first, virgin.

nah - but I think it's funny that someone else would lmao. Wouldn't be suprised if you're just saying this hoping it gets my account banned. Virgin? Got a wife and kids...not sure how I could do that being a virgin, but nice attempt - probably projection. Keep seething.

If you post like this to HN again we will ban you. Not cool.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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> Tech companies feeling competent to dictate truth is scary. What's scarier, the fact that tech companies feel competent to dictate truth or the fact that we let them?

I find it terrifying that there's a large portion of the population that encourages and wants them to do this.

Yep that is the truly terrifying part, when you realize that many ordinary people actively support tyranny ( not tyranny in their eye of course) from corporations/govt etc.

Re: YouTube suspends Rand Paul for seven days

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It's pretty conclusive. It's been conclusive for years and years, before COVID-19. There's no question at all that masks reduce infectiousness through the extremely obvious method of preventing some virus particles from going from one person to another, and also no question at all that probability of infection depends on number of virus particles around, and that viruses in general produce worse symptoms when the ini…

> You will find literally zero papers credibly claiming otherwise. Of the papers cited in the WHO meta-analysis of face masks and infection [1], all of the (three!) papers from a non-health-care setting had a confidence interval overlapping 1.0 (i.e. "no benefit"). Of those in a health-care setting, about half had confidence intervals overlapping 1.0 (i.e. "no benefit"): https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/arti…

The paper you linked to says, in its summary section, "For the general public, evidence shows that physical distancing of more than 1 m is highly effective and that face masks are associated with protection, even in non-health-care settings, with either disposable surgical masks or reusable 12–16-layer cotton ones, although much of this evidence was on mask use within households and among contacts of cases."

But I assume you mean that the meta analysis didn't claim masks were useless, those three underlying papers did? I'm not sure what those three were, though, maybe I missed it. I found all the papers used but there were like a dozen in the non-health-care setting.

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