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Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Indeed. The editorial boards of these newsrooms are often staffed with people who attended the same schools and classes as those running the country. The social circles of the two worlds are extremely closely linked. Of course, this means that the reporting isn't very good at addressing its blind spots–i.e., most of the news in the country, let alone the world, that isn't relevant to the ivy league coastal elites. An…

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Worth considering if this is what you voted for. Was the moment of pique worth it?

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your position is to omit agency of the palestinians which is harmful to any peace process

In what way? In the fact that I support their right to defend themselves from genocidal Israelis?

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That would be great, but I don't see it. HN has already been obviously violating GDPR and all other right-to-forget laws since forever by not allowong for account deletion, and everytime this has been brought up, dang has pretty much confirmed they don't care ("it would look bad if there were deleted comments [and that's more important than these laws]").

It turns out that in real life you don’t have any right to be forgotten, and trying to legally manufacture one is not only nonsensical, it’s impossible. HN is a public forum, if you don’t want your statements here being public, don’t post.

There are many cases where laws that are made for humans before certain tech are not sufficient once certain tech arrives.

You don’t need the right to be forgotten outside of specific tech because human brain forgets by default, paper rots, and all of the above is restricted geographically and does not scale.

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Not a surprise. I remember last year seeing that posts to https://www.birdsofgaza.com/ were being blocked, and it's hard to think of a more innocuous way of speaking out.

do you feel like it is “Israel’s war on Gaza”? Does that represent reality fully? Is that what children should be taught, that there is a demonic people that kills children? You don’t see any problem with omitting the massacre of israeli civilians, the captured hostages and many thousands of rocket launches towards densely populated civilian communities? is that how we achieve peace in your view?

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>Another difference would be that you are allowed to express your opinion, whereas in russia you would be put to jail, that's true but only in a very limited way. Although not even close in number and punishment the US government is deporting people for speaking against Israel. I think we do have a much better system because we are aware of these cases, you can speak out about the issue, and our court system can rule…

Exactly, it's the "they're the same anyway", "both sides" equivalency that allows the buildup of antidemocratic de-politicization and apathy. This is one of the goals of the _there_is_no_truth_ radicalization that is fundamental to Russian political control

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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Our minds have been so colonized or beaten down by powerful forces that _any_ support of the plight of the Palestine people is seen as pro-Hamas, even if I shout at the top of my voice that I don't care for the armed factions and political jockeying of either side. I will expect to be downvoted to hell for this.

That's because the Palestine protests are full of people who actually are pro-Hamas, and not only that but often rabidly antisemite on top of that. Your side linked the two together for whatever reason.

Wut?

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Presumably, every country in the world can ask US companies nicely to imprint their foreign policy on domestic moderation. Even I could ask; but why would Meta agree to do it?

Presumably because violent content really does decrease the value of their site, and meta is in this to make $$$. Broadly speaking people don't like content inciting violence, and will go elsewhere if there is too much of it. Just look at what happened to twitter.

>of 1,050 posts HRW documented as taken-down or suppressed on Facebook or Instagram, 1,049 involved peaceful content

The issue is that we are not talking about posts which would normally be taken down by Facebook.

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> Although not even close in number and punishment the US government is deporting people for speaking against Israel. You and I both know that isn't true and repeating that doesn't help anyone but further implant in people's minds that the other side is completely irrational and cannot be reasoned with. No, the US government is deporting people for supporting terrorist organizations, something that's always been a di…

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A judge gave the green light on deportationn just yesterday.

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If you are talking about Khalil, he didn't just speak against Israel, it seems like his role in an org which openly supported Hamas may have played a part but didn't matter legally. The legal issue was that he left out facts on his green card application. I am 100% sure that support of terrorist orgs can invalidate your green card. https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-claims-palest... > According to recent…

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A judge gave the green light on deportationn just yesterday.

Immigration judges are "administrative judges" and work for the executive (i.e. Trump), not an independent branch.

It'll be appealed to a Federal court now.

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