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I have to ask, is the locker room clubhouse clothing optional?
It’s a locker room; making them not clothing optional defeats the purpose.
I’m talking about the non-locker room parts of this locker room
I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic
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Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic
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Which new purpose do you allude to?
Only a guess but they all dropped the "working" and "men" requirements. The latest incarnation was "Men in Sheds" which eventually got the traditional treatment - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5qd9l3094o
Hmm yes I've seen men's sheds but they weren't actually men exclusive and very topical to making stuff. A bit like a makerspace but less focused on tech and more on woodworking.
Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic
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I think most men do not maintain friendships unless there is some outside circumstances that keeps them in touch. School, work, church, clubs, or even just being neighbors. Without exception the people who were my closest friends in high school didn't really keep in touch when we all went off to college. The friendships I made in college did not persist after graduation. There's a guy at work I had lunch with almost…
I agree and relate to this. Friend take work to maintain. The friends that persist beyond what you describe are because we invent some shared project to work on together. Really doesn’t matter what it is.
> Friend take work to maintain.
> we invent some shared project to work on together
Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic
#724To be honest, I don't want another social media platform. I just want a group of people that I can talk computers, old tech and projects with and zero risk of politics, religion, or any of the various -isms entering the fray.
It's funny because I want sort of the opposite. I have quite a few tech and tech-adjacent friends, and while I value those friendships a great deal, I want to make new friendships with people who aren't in tech and can talk about other topics. Both because I'm interested in other topics, and because I want to learn about and be involved in other things that are not tech.
That's also perfectly valid.
Maybe it's a saturation thing. The people I call my friends are plenty ready to chat about philosophy, psychology, politics, money, television or books they like, maybe play some games...but they kinda just glaze over when I want to talk about computers or some silly electronics project I'm futzing with. I could see the opposite being true, as well.
Balance in all things, I suppose.
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> The men are there to meet each other, not to avoid women. Gender segregation isn't the point - it's about building relationships. I'm not sure that's quite true. Men tend to talk and joke in a different way to women, which they then modify around women or be punished. The main difference between an old-school Personnel department and a modern HR department is HR is (self-)tasked with making sure the environment is…
No one is ever themselves, unmodified, when around other people. There are jokes and attitudes that are unacceptable in stereotypical masculine social situations too (having a feminine interest, for example, or simply speaking in the wrong way). The Overton Window moves. It narrows and widens. That isn't the same as being unable to be yourself. I agree that men should be socially allowed to have spaces where women ar…
> No one is ever themselves, unmodified, when around other people
I see what you mean. To clarify: I meant as a group, rather than as individuals. I appreciate there are smaller-groups that also can't be themselves somehow, but if that's a sin, then perhaps the larger group not being able to be itself is a larger sin.
Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic
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These all have the smell of “50% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck” type nonsense and there are sufficient counter findings that I don’t think there’s any good evidence here https://news.gallup.com/poll/470888/americans-largely-satisf... I think I’m likely correct. This is a manufactured crisis like seed oils, or ADHD and autism diagnoses. Nothing is actually getting worse.
ADHD is caused by a defective gene involving the DAT1 transporter causing it to be overactive. This causes a deficit of dopamine that predominantly impacts the right dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (there are other parts impacted too, but this one is the most apparent). The brain compromises with novelty seeking behavior to rebalance the neurochemistry as a depression response, and this outwardly manifests as distract…
Nah, at the point where people with accommodations average better than people without on the LSATs I can tell what’s going on. It’s unsurprising that people on a high-grade stimulant do well on tests.
Besides I know better because I did the natural thing. I read the DSM V guidelines for diagnosing ADHD, provided the appropriate information, and got myself a diagnosis for it and a prescription for Adderall.
I’m sure you guys have all the theory-crafting but I did the thing. So if you guys think there’s suddenly a huge burst of people getting this illness in states that reward it, boy do I have a bridge to sell you.
Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic
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Don't disagree, but some hard things don't get said when the other gender is around, especially with men of a certain age. It takes a lot for many men to even out loud say the word "lonely" or "sad" or "worthless". A lot of male conversation is silent. The whole spiel is to project and feel capable of dealing with the world, to feel useful, to be a Man. To feel otherwise is not "masculine". To admit this to mixed com…
Funny, because the traditional role of a women is exactly to be the one who hears all these hard things and helps the man overcome them. Extra funny hat women should be excluded so men can talk about feeling lonely and how they wish they had a woman.
The problem is you only need one woman yelling at you or causing drama, or one man getting overly friendly to get a very strong sense of having to be careful. Most people, male or female, are perfectly good people with some flexibility to take a bit of strife and emotional turmoil. A lot of the bad vibes between men and women are about a select few individuals or ordinary people in particularly bad moods causing traumatic experiences.
My experience has taught me trust and safety are important to women. Sometimes a man is not in his best state ready to provide that solid rock feeling. It is generally not a good situation if a woman feels she is bigger or needs to be bigger than the man and can't put herself in his hands safely.
Re: I'm starting a social club to solve the male loneliness epidemic
#728Earlier quoted context omitted.
ADHD is caused by a defective gene involving the DAT1 transporter causing it to be overactive. This causes a deficit of dopamine that predominantly impacts the right dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (there are other parts impacted too, but this one is the most apparent). The brain compromises with novelty seeking behavior to rebalance the neurochemistry as a depression response, and this outwardly manifests as distract…
Nah, at the point where people with accommodations average better than people without on the LSATs I can tell what’s going on. It’s unsurprising that people on a high-grade stimulant do well on tests. Besides I know better because I did the natural thing. I read the DSM V guidelines for diagnosing ADHD, provided the appropriate information, and got myself a diagnosis for it and a prescription for Adderall. I’m sure y…
There are problems in the DSM-5 for ADHD diagnosis. Dr Russell Barkley breaks it down in his lecture here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JLKCzEDqGa0