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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by handfuloflight »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #668
mtlynch wrote: post #664

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

I'm uninformed about this, it may just be superstition, but my feeling while using Kagi in this way is that after using it for a few hours it gets a bit more forgetful. I come back the next day and it's smart again, for while. It's as if there's some kind of soft throttling going on in the background. I'm an enthusiastic customer nonetheless, but it is curious.

Is that within the same chat?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by freediver »

fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

I would say this differently.

There exists no future where OpenAI both sells models through API and has its own consumer product. They will have to pick one of these things to bet the company on.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by xwowsersx »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #391

After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.

Can you share what sort of things you are doing with o1?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by throwup238 »

gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #715
mtlynch wrote: post #664

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

> Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. What am I losing here if I switch over to this from my current Claude subscription?

Claude projects mostly. Kagi’s assistant AI is a basic chat bot interface.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by archon810 »

submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Have you tried NotebookLM for something like this?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by y2hhcmxlcw »

Great, so now OpenAI has opened the door to pricing people out of AI access.

The o1-pro model in their charts is only ever so slightly better than the one I can get for $20 a month. To blur the lines of this they add in other features for $200 a month, but make no mistake, their best model is now 10x more expensive for 1% or so better results based on their charts.

What's next? The best models will soon cost $500 a month and only be available to enterprises? Seems they are opening the door to taking away public access to powerful models.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rumblefrog »

abhpro wrote: post #632
EcommerceFlow wrote: post #391

After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.

But is it better than Claude?

I generally find o1, or the previous o1-preview to perform better than Claude 3.5 Sonnet in complex reasonings, new Sonnet is more on-par with o1-mini in my experience.

Would expect o1-pro to perform even better.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by martinpw »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #429

Tangent. Does any body have good tips for working in a company that is totally bought in on all this stuff, such that the codebase is a complete wreck? I am in a very small team, and I am just a worker, not a manager or anything. It has become increasingly clear that most if not all my coworkers rely on all this stuff so much. Spending hours trying to give benefit of the doubt to huge amounts of inherited code, reali…

> Things are merged quickly, with very little review

Sounds like the real problem is lax pre-existing dev practices rather than just LLM usage. If code is getting merged with little review, that is a big red flag right away. But the 'very little' gives some hope - that means there is some review?

So what happens when you see problems with the code and give review feedback and ask why things have been done the way they were done, or suggest alternative better approaches? That should make it clear first if devs actually understand the code they are submitting, and second if they are willing to listen to suggested improvements. And if they blow you off, and the tech leads on the project also don't care, then it sounds like a place you don't want to stick around.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by handfuloflight »

ipsum2 wrote: post #687
submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Pay as you go using the anthropic API and an open source UI frontend like librechat would be a lot cheaper I suspect.

Depends on how much context he loads up into the chat. The web version is quite generous when compared to the API, from my estimations.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by eigenvalue »

cdrini wrote: post #405
eigenvalue wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't disagree more, I will be signing up for this as soon as I can, and it's a complete no brainer.

What will you be using it for? Where do you think you'll see the biggest benefit over the cheaper plan?

For programming. I've already signed up for it and it seems quite good (the o1 pro model I mean). I was also running into constraints on o1-preview before so it will be nice to not have to worry about that either. I wish I could get a similar more expensive plan for Claude 3.5 Sonnet that would let me make more requests.
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