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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by vanviegen » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:10 PM UTC

ryan29 wrote: post #340

nemonemo wrote: post #116

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Wouldn't you say the same thing for most of the people? Most of the people suck at verifying truth and reasoning. Even "intelligent" people make mistakes based on their biases. I think at least LLMs are more receptive to the idea that they may be wrong, and based on that, we can have N diverse LLMs and they may argue more peacefully and build a reliable consensus than N "intelligent" people.

> Wouldn't you say the same thing for most of the people? Most of the people suck at verifying truth and reasoning. Even "intelligent" people make mistakes based on their biases. I think there's a huge difference because individuals can be reasoned with, convinced they're wrong, and have the ability to verify they're wrong and change their position. If I can convince one person they're wrong about something, they con…

I asked ChatGPT 4o if there's anything that can be improved in your docker-compose file. Among other (seemingly sensible) suggestions, it offered:

## Restrict Host Ports for Security

If app and mariadb are only communicating internally, you can remove 3306:3306 to avoid exposing the port to the host machine:

```yaml ports: - 3306:3306 # Remove this unless external access is required. ```

So, apparently, ChatGPT doesn't need any more convincing.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by subroutine » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #286

subroutine wrote: post #277

Part of my justification for spending $20 per month on ChatGPT Plus was that I'd have the best access to the latest models and advanced features. I'll probably roll back to the free plan rather than pay $20/mo for mid tier plan access and support.

That's a weird reaction. You're not getting any less for your $20.

In the past, $20 got me the most access to the latest models and tools. When OpenAI rolled out new advanced features, the $20 per month customers always got full / first access. Now the $200 per month customers will have the most access to the latest models and tools, not the (now) mid/low tier customers. That seems like less to me.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by _fat_santa » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

maxlamb wrote: post #381

warkanlock wrote: post #366

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Serious question: Who earns (other than C-level) $150 an hour in a sane (non-US) world?

Most consultants with more than 3 years of experience are billed at $150/hr or more

> billed

That's what they are billed at, what they take home from that is probably much lower. At my org we bill folks out for ~$150/hr and their take home is ~$80/hr

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by xanderlewis » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

jl6 wrote: post #352

john-radio wrote: post #337

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A better way to express it than a "con" is that it's a price-framing device. It's like listing a watch at an initial value of $2,000 so that people will feel content to buy it at $400.

That sounds like a con to me too.

The line between ‘con’ and ‘genuine value synthesised in the eye of the buyer using nothing but marketing’ is very thin. If people are happy, they are happy.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by cdrini » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

eigenvalue wrote: post #173

yosito wrote: post #75

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Couldn't disagree more, I will be signing up for this as soon as I can, and it's a complete no brainer.

What will you be using it for? Where do you think you'll see the biggest benefit over the cheaper plan?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by s1mon » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

andrewstuart wrote: post #375

ChatGPT is unusable on an iPhone 6 - you can’t see the output. Hopefully they’ll spend some resource on making it work on mobile.

I bet that's not the only thing that doesn't work well on a 10 year old phone that hasn't had OS support since 2019.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by A_D_E_P_T » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:12 PM UTC

I just bought a pro subscription.

First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through.

It can handle unusually long prompts.

It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through its paces a bit more, though.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by xanderlewis » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:13 PM UTC

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #264

crazygringo wrote: post #119

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> In other words, it's a con. A con like that wouldn't last very long. This is for people who rely enough on ChatGPT Pro features that it becomes worth it. Whether they pay for it because they're freelance, or their employer does. Just because an LLM doesn't boost your productivity, doesn't mean it doesn't for people in other lines of work. Whether LLM's help you at your work is extremely domain-dependent.

Overcharging for a product to make it seem better than it really is has served apple well for decades

Apple products are expensive — sometimes to a degree that almost seems to be taking the piss.

But name one other company whose hardware truly matches Apple’s standards for precision and attention to detail.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by submeta » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:14 PM UTC

Does it allow to upload files, text, pdfs to give it a context? Claude‘s project feature allows this, and I can create as many projects as I like, and search for them.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by bdangubic » Thu, Dec 05, 2024, 9:17 PM UTC

andrewstuart wrote: post #375

ChatGPT is unusable on an iPhone 6 - you can’t see the output. Hopefully they’ll spend some resource on making it work on mobile.

iPhone 6 is not a mobile phone - it is a relic that belongs in a museum :)