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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by MrMan »

war1025 wrote: post #311
pmiller2 wrote: post #271

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Well, they saw that over the past 4 years and then voted for him again, so, I have no sympathy, and neither should anyone else.

Then again, the other side voted for Biden, so it's not like we've got stellar options here.

I am very unhappy that Biden was the candidate on the other side. But I saw the alternative as fascism and sectarian violence. I predicted Trumps 2016 win and no one took me seriously. I predicted the rise to prominence of white nationalism and even the Cville event. I think Biden is a terrible candidate but the alternative is worse. If there is ever a non racist non violent Republican party I will join it but right now everything is off.

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Post by blueflame7 »

itronitron wrote: post #633
nelsondev wrote: post #247

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On that note, what specifically from Trump’s speech was inciting violence? “March” != “Riot” This is the section about marching to the Capitol. “ And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to dema…

Thank you for posting a link to the full text of Trump's speech. Consider this section from the last paragraph... "the Democrats are hopeless, they are never voting for anything, not even one vote"

The didn't. Democrats never break rank. Ever.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by blueflame7 »

glitcher wrote: post #95
throwawaysea wrote: post #69

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This is very true. Tens of thousands of Trump supporters showed up to DC this last week, attending one of several fully-legal, fully-permitted protests. Almost all events and participants were peaceful. A few hundred walked into the capitol complex, and I am guessing most did not initially plan to do so but got caught up in the moment, following those in front of them. Of those few hundred, an even smaller group was…

> the same standard won't be applied to those on the political left despite hundreds of riots being held across 2020 I beg to differ. Any time protests turn into riots, there are many who will jump at labelling the entire movement as being full of thugs and criminals. Your own words could be used to describe exactly how the BLM protests were viewed by the right. And actually, you yourself only mentioned "riots" witho…

No, you are supposed to have empathy because you can understand why people might do that. Remember CHAZ?

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by TLightful »

FFRefresh wrote: post #36
e40 wrote: post #21

The lies are 100% of the reason the capital riot happened, so yes, they do need to stop. Fox News lies every single day. What do we expect from a population of people that only hear these lies, day in and day out? They're going to react just like they did on 1/6.

What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"? Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet?

Yes.

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Post by redis_mlc »

bryan0 wrote: post #13

The headline has important context: “YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel hours after Rudy Giuliani appeared on an episode and blamed the Capitol siege on Democrats” At some point the lies need to stop.

Actually the protester breaking the Capitol window doesn't appear to be a Trump supporter, so it could be a leftist provocateur.

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Post by MrMan »

pmiller2 wrote: post #331
war1025 wrote: post #327

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In the same way, in 2016 a lot of people voted for "not-Clinton".

Clinton was a terrible candidate. I have no idea if she would have been a good President, but she was the exact wrong person to go up against Trump.

She is a really bad candidate and it was clear Trump would destroy her on TV.

I think she would have been a really decent president, even though I think she has an unpleasant media personality.

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Post by jeltz »

nathias wrote: post #715
ChrisRR wrote: post #667

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As a brit, Fox news fascinates me. Because every clip of it I watch is so clearly opinion piece propaganda, they don't even pretend like they're reporting the news Even our "equivalent", the Murdoch owned Sky News channel is nowhere near as bad as Fox news

I agree, but its the same with the left media, the news are so highly politicized and opinionated that when comparing two news stories wouldn't be able to tell they are talking about the same event. One calls the other conspiracy theorists, the other is fake news, and everyone is applauding when their team is censoring the other.

There is left wing media like that but none of it is close to as big as Fox News. Yes, both sides do it but quantity matters.

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Post by narcissismo »

ChrisRR wrote: post #667
e40 wrote: post #21

The lies are 100% of the reason the capital riot happened, so yes, they do need to stop. Fox News lies every single day. What do we expect from a population of people that only hear these lies, day in and day out? They're going to react just like they did on 1/6.

As a brit, Fox news fascinates me. Because every clip of it I watch is so clearly opinion piece propaganda, they don't even pretend like they're reporting the news Even our "equivalent", the Murdoch owned Sky News channel is nowhere near as bad as Fox news

Yes. Brexit was clearly a grassroots movement started by a 65 year-old man on an allotment.

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Post by [deleted] »

0xB31B1B wrote: post #584
jojobas wrote: post #417

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This "reality" thing you're talking about is not singular. Easiest illustration is that Rittenhouse fellow, a brave-ish kid standing for himself in one reality and a cold-blooded murderer in another.

Rittenhouse, an 17 year old, carried a weapon across state lines to engage in militia activities and shot someone. He was not defending his own house or business. He is a bad guy, and what he did was bad. In the modern world, the state has a monopoly on violence, no roving militias are legitimate uses of force.

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Post by MrMan »

cmurf wrote: post #513
ecommerceguy wrote: post #82

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I'd argue the reason these type of people are pissed off is because they have been incessantly attacked for 4 plus years while watching the media turn a blind eye to anything that disparages any minority or "protected class." We spent 10 MONTHS watching riots every day. DC was BURNING in July.

These are the same bigots who believed Trump's racist lie of birtherism that he peddled for five years before even running for president. Trump tried to delegitimize the former president, like he's trying to delegitimize the incoming president. He's always been anti-American insofar as he is exclusively pro-Trump. Abraham Lincoln said that all controversies are about minorities and majorities, and that one of them mu…

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