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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Oh, please. The people who elected the man who was President for the past 4 years are "the unheard?"

To an extent they are, in that they elected him hoping to get something out of it, and he didn’t deliver much of anything useful. He conned them. Such is the way of politics sometimes.

Well, they saw that over the past 4 years and then voted for him again, so, I have no sympathy, and neither should anyone else.

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Give me a time stamp. I JUST rewatched the livestream as people streamed in, it’s for a project I am working on. I did not see anyone armed. Maybe some were armed but it was not clear and irrefutable. Edit: https://youtu.be/OiaWd5gVDvg

Just one example. https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347011413101998080?s=1...

One. And you saw this guy on the tv and monitor you were glued to? Or you didn’t see this until after the fact.. on Twitter?

Further, staying inline with the thread.. This is how we define “mass armed people storming the capitol”? Contrast to the three blazes that were going on around dc in may. Did those controlled fires mean dc was burning down?

I am challenging the narrative. Dc was not burning in may just the same as a large mob of ARMED people didn’t storm the capitol...

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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I read things like this and it really makes me sad. I don’t agree with Steve Bannon or Rudy Giuliani on a lot of things. I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. I really wish we could switch what politics is about. Currently we (meaning news channels and Twitter/internet folk) want to dunk on the other tribe and show them how wrong and stupid t…

> I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. Just out of curiosity who is their equivalent person on the left? > Can’t we all try to find consensus and compromise? What consensus and compromise do you want when the President of the US wants to "find" the votes or when calls the rioters good people and we love you?

Keith Olbermann perhaps?

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1314674750858297344

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"? Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet?

This is literally how it used to work before the FCC removed the FCC fairness doctrine in 1987. Fox news was then founded in 1996.

The fairness doctrine never applied to cable channels, nor did they have FCC licenses that could be revoked.

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I'm not even in the US, but all of this banning makes me really curious about what's being banned and why. Something that some of you may have missed: This banning thing already moved into the infrastructure/cloud services layer (AWS): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959

[Note: Trying to present this as factually as possible.] According to what the companies say: - The President incited some people last week to engage in violent behavior at and towards Congress. - There is evidence that further violence is being planned via a variety of platforms. - The platforms are attempting to limit their exposure to facilitating such actions. Some people think that the companies have ulterior mo…

It is interesting how strongly people have been blaming facebook for the worlds problems but as soon as tech companies start to clean up their services its suddenly too much use of power.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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The story has nothing to do with Steve Bannon's podcast channel and everything to do with the sea change in how social media moderation policy is being interpreted and enforced.

But is it helpful for that discussion to repeatedly restart it for every social media platform in the sea? The specific details of the source article here don't seem to have added any new information; 100% of the comments I see would have fit equally well on "Stripe bans Trump campaign" or "Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler" or any of the other threads we've had over the past few days.

There should be a standard numbered list of comments about these stories. Then we can all save time by posting a #3 or #11 or whatever.

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So many politicians are guilty of misrepresenting the truth or even downright lies; the last two Democrat candidates have been guilty of outright lies as well. Who will be the arbiter of this blurry line of truthfulness.

> Who will be the arbiter of this blurry line of truthfulness.

Is there any proof that the rioters wearing Auschwitz Tshirts, carrying Trump and Confederate flags who were told by the President that he loves them were Democrats?

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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This isn't about people having their civil liberties taken away. The social network bans are businesses protecting themselves from people whom threaten their business. Like a fast food restaurant refusing to serve customers who smoke crack in the restaurant. The platform and infrastructure bans are also businesses protecting themselves but not from people, rather from other businesses. This is on level with U-haul ba…

Access to legal counsel is in a special category. Law firms are expected to represent people accused of the very worst crimes in order to promote a just outcome. It's extremely disturbing that political actions which may be distasteful but could never be prosecuted as crimes in normal circumstances have become a justification to harass law firms until they refuse to represent a client. I say "normal circumstances" be…

Do you have reason to believe that it’s harassment that is stopping these people from getting legal counsel? Many of these people, Trump especially, have shown that they refuse to listen to legal council and will lie for no good reason at all, then throw their legal council under the bus if it seems like it will advantage them. There are many good reasons lawyers might not want to touch the current situation with a ten foot pole besides harrasement.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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If you truly think a mass of armed people stormed the capitol then you too have fallen prey to lies. What I’m saying is both actions didn’t end with a good look and they both should be condemned Edit: I seemed to have touched a nerve. I was rewatching video from people storming the capitol. They were not armed and they were all milling about without a plan. Even the lady that was shot was unarmed Edit2: I think we ar…

There’s still stuff coming out about this. 1) Bombs were left during the invasion. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-50k-reward-pipe-bombs-capit... 2) Weapons were recovered. https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/13-arrested-5-weapons-reco... That’s weapons recovered. How many more were carrying?

Also there’s this: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-arres...

Jake Angeli carried a spear. Several weapons recovered from Eric Munchel.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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How would any government exist if it were simple to coordinate violent acts against people you don't agree with? How can we even exist as a society is if don't we force people to use the framework of governance?

> How would any government exist if it were simple to coordinate violent acts against people you don't agree with? Isn't it already the case that it is simple to coordinate violent acts against people one doesn't agree with? >How can we even exist as a society is if don't we force people to use the framework of governance? Why wouldn't we be able to?

> Isn't it already the case that it is simple to coordinate violent acts against people one doesn't agree with?

No. We don't.

Stop playing stupid.

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