YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel
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YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel
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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel
#2Something that some of you may have missed: This banning thing already moved into the infrastructure/cloud services layer (AWS):
Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel
#3I'm not even in the US, but all of this banning makes me really curious about what's being banned and why. Something that some of you may have missed: This banning thing already moved into the infrastructure/cloud services layer (AWS): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959
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#4At this point, the reason for deplatforming is that someone accused a bad thing on the opposite party.
It would be ludicrous to ban anyone blaming the events at the Capitol on Trump and/or Republicans, even if you earnestly believe that's unfair.
There is no objective case for blaming it on anyone except the individuals doing it. Anything beyond that is subjective, and you get your hands dirty really quick (ie try arguing that the Scalise shooting - by a Bernie volunteer against Republican congressmen - is completely divorced from Bernie, but the Capitol events are completely tied to Trump).
Ergo this amounts to banning people - almost all on one side of politics, even if a fringe thereof - for saying things that appear to be untrue. Not even a hint of violence or a call thereto, just an opinion that is believed to be wrong.
Are we quite sure we're happy with people losing their income and livelihood and brand and platform, just because the tech companies don't agree with their claims?
Do you know how many smaller, left-of-centre groups will quickly get caught up in that once they join this discussion around unionising the workforce of the tech giants?
You may despise Bannon, and I find it hard to believe he's an earnest actor, but think through the steps for how this happened. He's being banned for an opinion, entirely separate from any risk to anyone, and to argue otherwise (ie an implicit call to violence against the blamed party) would open you up to the claim that blaming anything in the last week on Trump is a call to violence against the president and/or his supporters, and is thus equally bannable.
Is that reasonable? Should all opinions on this topic result in permanent banning and deplatforming?
Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel
#5I'm not even in the US, but all of this banning makes me really curious about what's being banned and why. Something that some of you may have missed: This banning thing already moved into the infrastructure/cloud services layer (AWS): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959
So many posts are getting brigaded this weekend. Removing this one now too.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
So many posts are getting brigaded this weekend. Removing this one now too.
This really strengthens/validates everyone who told him to attack big tech sooner.
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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel
#8This stuff makes me really, really suspicious. At this point, the reason for deplatforming is that someone accused a bad thing on the opposite party. It would be ludicrous to ban anyone blaming the events at the Capitol on Trump and/or Republicans, even if you earnestly believe that's unfair. There is no objective case for blaming it on anyone except the individuals doing it. Anything beyond that is subjective, and y…
Anyway I feel like this is a blessing in disguise, stuff like this can cause Tech giants to lose huge market share in the long term future.
It is good that people are forming other organic communities completely separate from Google/FB/Twitter.
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#9For years, the defense of these assholes has been “Oh, that’s just rhetoric, it’s not meant to be taken literally.” Well, we’ve just seen what happens when it gets taken literally.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel
#10I'm not even in the US, but all of this banning makes me really curious about what's being banned and why. Something that some of you may have missed: This banning thing already moved into the infrastructure/cloud services layer (AWS): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959