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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by bovine3dom » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 9:15 AM UTC

chme wrote: post #719

bovine3dom wrote: post #716

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> :fixamo now doesn't return any error but still doesn't work. You need to restart the browser afterwards. Sorry, people usually find the command through the help page where it has all of these caveats. We have smooth scrolling, you just need to do `set smoothscroll true`. It's a bit rubbish, though. You can often fix the new tab page by disabling and re-enabling the new tab add-on you want. Every time Tridactyl is u…

> You need to restart the browser afterwards. Sorry, people usually find the command through the help page where it has all of these caveats. :help fixamo Does not state that I need to restart firefox afterwards. [1] I did restart firefox after I installed `native` and before I run :fixamo. :native also returned that the it was installed correctly before I run :fixamo. [1]: fixamo fixamo(): Promise Defined in src/exc…

Ah, good spot. I've added that to the documentation now.

If you're saying that a restart didn't make fixamo work, would you mind filing an issue so we can try to fix it?

Edit: sorry, I should have been clearer: fixamo edits a file which is only read at Firefox startup, so you need to run fixamo and then restart.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by AlphaGeekZulu » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 9:32 AM UTC

seba_dos1 wrote: post #641

andrewl-hn wrote: post #515

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Oh, that's not hard. First, Firefox doesn't squeeze tabs past certain limit, so you don't have these tiny-tiny tabs that you can't click. You get the scrolling, but it won't bother you after a while. Thus, visually even with 1000 or 2000 tabs browser UI stays clean. Second, when you type stuff into the address bar Firefox searches through opened tabs and suggests switching to that. This minimizes the number of times…

Exactly this! I'm also using Tab Center Redux to have tabs on the left side, which seems better UX- and space-wise for me even with just a few tabs open, although in the past I've used Firefox's default UI as well for a long time and it worked fine, unlike Chrome's UI. This is how my Firefox looks like: https://dosowisko.net/Screenshot_20171030_203716.png https://dosowisko.net/Screenshot_20171030_203804.png Once a wh…

I wonder how you shrink the sidebar to icon size and remove the standard tab bar from Firefox??

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by chme » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 9:53 AM UTC

bovine3dom wrote: post #721

chme wrote: post #719

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> You need to restart the browser afterwards. Sorry, people usually find the command through the help page where it has all of these caveats. :help fixamo Does not state that I need to restart firefox afterwards. [1] I did restart firefox after I installed `native` and before I run :fixamo. :native also returned that the it was installed correctly before I run :fixamo. [1]: fixamo fixamo(): Promise Defined in src/exc…

Ah, good spot. I've added that to the documentation now. If you're saying that a restart didn't make fixamo work, would you mind filing an issue so we can try to fix it? Edit: sorry, I should have been clearer: fixamo edits a file which is only read at Firefox startup, so you need to run fixamo and then restart.

> If you're saying that a restart didn't make fixamo work, would you mind filing an issue so we can try to fix it?

No I haven't tried that. After I run :fixamo and that didn't work I just opened about:config and change those settings myself without restarting firefox.

Edit: Since I now continued to test tridactyl I found that this newtab overwriting function gets pretty annoying from a usability perspective. When I start a new Tab with [Ctrl]+[t] and immediately type my desired address part of it will be overwritten when 'about:blank' is inserted. I guess you want people to use just a binding to :tabopen, but I do like my options. Also since :tabopen do not contain my bookmarks I prefer using the address line.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by bovine3dom » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 9:56 AM UTC

chme wrote: post #723

bovine3dom wrote: post #721

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Ah, good spot. I've added that to the documentation now. If you're saying that a restart didn't make fixamo work, would you mind filing an issue so we can try to fix it? Edit: sorry, I should have been clearer: fixamo edits a file which is only read at Firefox startup, so you need to run fixamo and then restart.

> If you're saying that a restart didn't make fixamo work, would you mind filing an issue so we can try to fix it? No I haven't tried that. After I run :fixamo and that didn't work I just opened about:config and change those settings myself without restarting firefox. Edit: Since I now continued to test tridactyl I found that this newtab overwriting function gets pretty annoying from a usability perspective. When I s…

Ok, great. That means the only bug is bad documentation and feedback to users. Thanks for your time!

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by Sylos » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 10:12 AM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #147

thermodynthrway wrote: post #36

I switched back a few months ago on all of my devices and only go back when I need Chrome devtools, Firefox is absolutely back in its prime. Feels just as speedy as Chrome on desktop and mobile, and handles large numbers of tabs better. Ironically, or maybe intentionally, Google services are the only thing degraded. Google even refuses to give you the regular home page. Thankfully you can just get an extension that f…

What's different about the home page?

I don't know, if he's talking specifically about this, but on Firefox for Android, Google serves a version of their search page from a few years ago.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by AlphaGeekZulu » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 10:13 AM UTC

AlphaGeekZulu wrote: post #722

seba_dos1 wrote: post #641

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Exactly this! I'm also using Tab Center Redux to have tabs on the left side, which seems better UX- and space-wise for me even with just a few tabs open, although in the past I've used Firefox's default UI as well for a long time and it worked fine, unlike Chrome's UI. This is how my Firefox looks like: https://dosowisko.net/Screenshot_20171030_203716.png https://dosowisko.net/Screenshot_20171030_203804.png Once a wh…

I wonder how you shrink the sidebar to icon size and remove the standard tab bar from Firefox??

Found the answer in the custom CSS manual of Tab Center Redux...

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by dspillett » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 10:13 AM UTC

natecavanaugh wrote: post #638

dspillett wrote: post #632

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>* I guess I didn't realize what sort of exodus occurred when chrome came out.* It wasn't really a mass exodus, but a gradual wax & wane over time (with more moves FF->C over the long term than C->FF). In development fields the count is complicated by people who regularly use both, but prefer one. > I typically have 2-8 tabs open I tend to have many open[1], over several windows on different desktops. I use open tabs…

Thank you for link to TGS, I have similar browsing patterns, and I do notice chrome closing in on 5gb of RAM, slowing down alot of other stuff. Hopefully this will help :)

I've only been using it for a few weeks, but so far it has proven to be a wonderful tool. I've even been moved to donate a little.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by bovine3dom » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 11:01 AM UTC

chme wrote: post #723

bovine3dom wrote: post #721

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, good spot. I've added that to the documentation now. If you're saying that a restart didn't make fixamo work, would you mind filing an issue so we can try to fix it? Edit: sorry, I should have been clearer: fixamo edits a file which is only read at Firefox startup, so you need to run fixamo and then restart.

> If you're saying that a restart didn't make fixamo work, would you mind filing an issue so we can try to fix it? No I haven't tried that. After I run :fixamo and that didn't work I just opened about:config and change those settings myself without restarting firefox. Edit: Since I now continued to test tridactyl I found that this newtab overwriting function gets pretty annoying from a usability perspective. When I s…

> Since I now continued to test tridactyl I found that this newtab overwriting function gets pretty annoying from a usability perspective. When I start a new Tab with [Ctrl]+[t] and immediately type my desired address part of it will be overwritten when 'about:blank' is inserted. I guess you want people to use just a binding to :tabopen, but I do like my options. Also since :tabopen do not contain my bookmarks I prefer using the address line.

Huh, that is annoying. I hadn't noticed that. There's not much we can do about it though, short of just disabling the new tab page.

The lack of bookmarks in tabopen is annoying, I agree. We rushed to get the completions out with Tridactyl, and did it shoddily and haven't bothered to rewrite it yet.

There is bmarks which just completes from bookmarks, but that opens things in the current tab.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by richjdsmith » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 3:48 PM UTC

kees99 wrote: post #478

radmuzom wrote: post #467

Most of the comments here are about using or not using Firefox, depending on it's features as compared to primarily Chrome. However, for me, it is not about being better or having more features at all - it is because I like Firefox and want to support Mozilla and believe that Google should not control the web. It is somewhat similar to the free software vs. open source debate - one should use free software not becaus…

> website which is "best viewed with Chrome" I'm stunned. Is this still a thing? Last time I remember seeing websites recommending a browser, it was late 90s with "get Netscape" gifs.

Just today I tried browsing Google Flights on (the latest version of) Firefox mobile and not only did it recommend getting a "browser upgrade", it would not let me use the site at all.

Here's a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/2CCRVDf

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by com2kid » Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 4:38 PM UTC

bholley wrote: post #278

com2kid wrote: post #79

After running for a few hours, Firefox starts making my entire computer lag, eventually to the point of freezing up for seconds at a time multiple times per minute. Over time Firefox's video playback gets more and more janky, until it drops more frames than it shows. In task manager I can see FF using 50% of my GPU to play a 720p stream from Twitch. Closing FF completely and reopening it fixes the problem, until it h…

Sounds like ghost windows. Try disabling all your add-ons to see if the problem persists? You can also record a profile via perfht.ml and send it to me, I'm happy to have a look.

Thanks for offering to take a look! What is your email? Next time it happens I'll be sure to send the logs along.