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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by ransom1538 »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #707

Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena: 1. Old bugs are not fixed. 2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds. 3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them. 4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them. My workflow pr…

Nothing on this list compares to removing an ESC key. That was apple starting to leave reality. I had to buy used laptops for that time period.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by josteink »

thepryz wrote: post #360
etempleton wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been running the beta from the beginning and they have improved quite a bit, but I am actually shocked they didn't delay Mac OS 26, because the design is so rough around the edges. Some of the larger aesthetic changes, such as the menu bar and the dock look good, but there is so much more that looks objectively awful. 1. the way window UI elements float in bubbles on the top over a white background is horrible…

The original, updated version of the Finder icon alone should have been enough of a warning that the UX designers at Apple have lost their minds and any aesthetic sense, let alone an ability to design interfaces that are functional, efficient, and well thought-out. https://512pixels.net/2025/06/wwdc25-macos-tahoe-breaks-deca...

I don't get it either. I open the Finder app, and the sidebar is randomly turquoise, over a white background.

It looks ugly, and I have no reason why that sidebar (unlike all other sidebars) is that specific colour. It just makes no sense.

Edit: Oh My God. I just tested installing my own app on Tahoe, and the DMG looks absolutely broken with what used to be solid edges confined inside a window, now being stretched to the window-edges, blurred by the glass-effect making the header on top unreadable.

THANKS APPLE. Jeez.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by 1over137 »

crinkly wrote: post #217
veeti wrote: post #179

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Imagine if Steve saw this... https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/tahoe...

Think something is borked there. Mine doesn't do that.

Something is indeed borked: Apple's (lack of) QA, bug fixing, and attention to detail.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by zabil »

Not a fan of the new Safari design. I used to like it for its compact and minimalist look, but now the address bar and tab bar feel like they take up more space than they should.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by kcplate »

christophilus wrote: post #113
12_throw_away wrote: post #79

I swear I don't usually complain about UI styling updates, because it's usually not a big deal - but this looks really, really bad [1]. It's less functional with bizarre transparency choices destroying legibility, and big rounded corners taking up more dead space. And stylistically, the layouts just look unbalanced and amateurish (It reminds me of what happens when I attempt to do CSS layouts). Most Linux desktops un…

Wow. I know I’m not the first to say it, but it really does give me Windows Vista vibes. No bueno.

I see people making this comparison but as someone who used vista back in the day and someone who has been using all flavors of 26 for over a month now, it really bears no resemblance in UI or UX to vista at all.

I kind of think the people making this comparison are doing it off screenshots and not actual experience with the two operating systems.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by kaladin-jasnah »

kminehart wrote: post #258
rvrb wrote: post #227

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Fedora Silverblue is the closest feeling to the macOS experience I fell in love with that I’ve had on Linux in, well, ever. Very happy with it on my desktop and laptop. It’s not perfect but it is less imperfect than modern macOS has become. Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

> Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however. It doesn't exist at the moment. :\ I would pay 2x the price of a macbook for a linux laptop with the same hardware quality. The battery life and power/efficiency of my m4 pro is insane. It's so good that it's really hard to justify using anything else right now.

I'm hoping maybe the Qualcomm laptops make some progress on battery life. I had an LG gram that had honestly surprisingly good battery life on Linux, and maybe the ThinkPads are good too.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by Someone »

rcarmo wrote: post #211
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening. Apple has a thing against people with OCD. Or taste. The thing is horribly wasteful of screen real estate, and as someone who’s been writing a Mac blog for over two decades, I am so happy I started using Fedora two years ago—GNOME has its flaws, but it looks nicer than Tahoe.

> I count four different corner radius sizes currently on my screen, which is maddening.

I don’t see the mere fact of having multiple radiuses alone is a good criticism of the UI. If seeing multiple corner radiuses infuriates you, how do you survive in the real world? (https://www.folklore.org/Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.html)

Or do you think it would look or work better with more consistency in corner radiuses? I would think radiuses look best when (somewhat) scaled to the dimensions of their rectangle (and that’s where, IMO, they may not be doing things the best way. For thin, long rectangles, I think the radius they chose is a tad too large, leaving barely any vertical straight lines)

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by mmmnnn »

ransom1538 wrote: post #711
dreamcompiler wrote: post #707

Every new version of MacOS exhibits four phenomena: 1. Old bugs are not fixed. 2. New bugs are introduced, and I have to spend hours online figuring out workarounds. 3. Old features I depended on are removed, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to replace them. 4. New features I don't need are added and they get in my way, and I have to spend hours online figuring out how to disable them. My workflow pr…

Nothing on this list compares to removing an ESC key. That was apple starting to leave reality. I had to buy used laptops for that time period.

super lolllz

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by herewulf »

lylo wrote: post #581
bombcar wrote: post #285

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It's sad that the best Linux laptop right now arguably is a M4 Mac virtualizing Linux.

Framework?

I wanted to post this myself because I swear by my Framework 13 and it's my workhorse. However, it doesn't hold a candle to my wife's M3 Pro on a number of metrics mentioned here such as: Battery life, screen quality, and overall performance.

The Framework (Intel 12th Gen) also has the added benefit of heating the house, particularly with graphics "heavy" workloads (lots of windows open in GNOME Mutter, VMs, etc).

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by api »

Things I like: reintroducing a little bit of 3D/skeumorphism. I'm sick of flat. Also the Music and Podcasts app changes aren't bad. Haven't tried the iPhone/desktop tighter integration but it looks interesting. Not UI, but it seems like my wifi is faster, but I could also be nuts. Maybe a driver update?

Things that are "meh": the "apps" thing that replaces the previous launch pad, the translucency, the "dark" icon theme.

Things I don't like: stop wasting my f'ing screen real estate. Stop it with the unnecessary whitespace and the f'ing thicc menu bar. This is a desktop/laptop and it's for real work. It's also ugly. Speaking of ugly, I count several different window corner radii. Why do Windows need gigantically rounded corners?

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