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Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

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Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

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Wearing a mask when around others during a pandemic is neither pointless nor counterproductive.

There is a vaccine

Multiple even.

There's a man in Romania who did three different vaccines (by lying) and wanted to do more before he was arrested.

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> I save money by spending less on food, drinks, and electricity. For those of us who have to commute, it's not exactly the norm to be saving money while commuting. Commutes are responsible for a 10% drop in hourly wages[1], and the median commute time results in spending 10 full days commuting a year. The average commuter in one of the largest metro areas in the country will spend over 13 full days commuting a year:…

The food/drink part could be the most of it. A Google employee enjoying free food and drink could save $60/day versus buying prepared food ($10 for breakfast, $20 for lunch, and $30 for dinner). If you drink much coffee or other beverages, that could be another $15/day. If you weigh this against spending an extra hour or two commuting, then it looks like a lousy bargain. But if you are like many people, and ended up…

I've spent years, working in offices in London and not being thrifty with £, in fact spending too much on overpriced sandwiches, coffees cakes etc... but how on earth do you get to those numbers ??

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That’s because diversity and inclusion pretty much means “blacks” and “women” fullstop. I was recently hiring a developer and my massive media company insisted I ensure my recruiter is giving me diverse candidates. I selected an individual who is apparently Spanish Jewish. Some very rare tribe of Jews from Spain. Was that considered diverse? Nope. Needs to be black.

I fully relate to this. Years ago I worked for a Canadian subsidiary of a US company doing work with the US government. On a (illegal in Canada) US government form I accurately marked down that my "Protected Origin Class". I am 50% African and 50% Asian, as a Moroccan-Jewish, Israeli. We were audited. The American auditor was flabbergasted by my values on the form. He literally told me that as a (visible, brown) Jew,…

Huh, so its not only me. My grandparents came from Libya in the late 1950's, but for some reason the very north of Africa doesn't quite qualify for most people as African "enough" for me to be of African descent. Feels like for many people the benchmark is either skin color or not coming from a traditionally Arab country. A similar thing happens to acquaintances of mine of Tunisian or Algerian descent.

I guess the geographical line is somewhere around Mauritania

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Private transport is also one of the biggest sources of greenhouse gas emissions. Reducing daily commute seems like a good way to improve our carbon footprint. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-climate-change-c...

One of many, though; I'm really getting my hackles up with corporations making end users responsible for things like plastic, industrial farming and co2 emissions. Yes they're a part of the equation, but there's much bigger impact to be made if they work from the top down. Mind you, there are things like that going on (at least in my neck of the woods), with things like subsidies to consumers for going to battery pow…

> there's much bigger impact to be made if they work from the top down

Exactly. Germany banning plastic straws while simultaneously funding a new natural gas pipeline feels very much like they just want it to seem like things are improving.

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I work for another company that is going to do a partial return to office. I will be looking at options for companies that offer full in person office (or 90% in person office) after things settle down. I have worked full remote for a total of 5 years of my career, and I believe working in the office is a competitive advantage. * Overhearing hallway conversations (and joining them) helps spawn invocation. * I often d…

* Overhearing hallway conversations (and joining them) helps spawn invocation. - I hate being distracted by hallway conversations. They're just a way to avoid work for most people. * I often do/did paired programming, and over-the-shoulder code reviews. These are easier in person - They are easier to do online imo. There's no need to sit next to each other. * Having a workforce socially close improves productivity be…

The only point that I agree from OP is about stronger work/life separation which I need to work on. My work days drag a bit more while working from home. In the beginning, I was even working during night which I never did when I was working in the office since I left my laptop at work. This was also because I am single and everything was under lockdown. So I didn't know what to do with my time.

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Commutes also cost the one thing we can't get back; time.

If you use public transport, you can regain that time. In the UK you can get a seat on most rush hour trains, and even standing up on the Tube you can read a book, listen to a podcast, do your email etc. It's also good thinking time. Driving a car yep you're absolutely right, but if you commute via car a long distance for a considerable amount of time I think you're crazy.

Not to mention sleeping on the train.

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Private transport is also one of the biggest sources of greenhouse gas emissions. Reducing daily commute seems like a good way to improve our carbon footprint. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-climate-change-c...

One of many, though; I'm really getting my hackles up with corporations making end users responsible for things like plastic, industrial farming and co2 emissions. Yes they're a part of the equation, but there's much bigger impact to be made if they work from the top down. Mind you, there are things like that going on (at least in my neck of the woods), with things like subsidies to consumers for going to battery pow…

> I'm really getting my hackles up with corporations making end users responsible for things like plastic, industrial farming and co2 emissions.

Me too, but GP has an argument along these lines here.

Commute is a big, and often deciding factor, in private car ownership. Get rid of it, and most drivers will lose the major reason for owning a car. Expand the delivery systems for day-to-day stuff like groceries, and another big reason - buying in bulk - goes away. While people living in sparsely populated areas will still need their cars, the dwellers of large cities with serviceable public transport infrastructure might be more inclined to get rid of their cars, and just rent one for an occasional out-of-town errand.

In this way, normalizing work from home creates top-down pressure for reducing the number of private cars in use.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

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Commutes also cost the one thing we can't get back; time.

If you use public transport, you can regain that time. In the UK you can get a seat on most rush hour trains, and even standing up on the Tube you can read a book, listen to a podcast, do your email etc. It's also good thinking time. Driving a car yep you're absolutely right, but if you commute via car a long distance for a considerable amount of time I think you're crazy.

Depends, public transport outside of London is often a complete joke in the UK. I switched to cycling after getting pissed off at a bus that came once every hour and a half, was often 30-40 minutes late and occasionally didn't bother to turn up at all.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

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Remote works kills many communication channels and opportunities. It can be a good thing but not as permanent state of affairs. 2-3 days in office is probably something where you can get good balance.

If you have a team of people assigned to you, you need to care about them, not just organize the work. It's near impossible to see when someone's is getting stressed, until something breaks. It's extremely hard to integrate newcomers.

People have trivial things that hold them back, but they don't know how to communicate those issues or may not even know about them. Just observing and interacting with them will clear them up quickly.

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